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YZEtc




PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:37 am

My Power Commander lll just quit working, and while that's off to Dynojet Research for warranty repair, I needed a new programmer to keep me going (since the factory setings stink for power and throttle response, as we all know).
So, I just got an FMF Power Programmer.

Question:
What settings work for power and throttle response?
I'm after off-road performance and don't care about miles per gallon.

My WR-250Rs mods are:
*FMF Powerbomb header and Q4 muffler
*Deflappered airbox
*12/45 sprockets :)
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YZEtc




PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:15 am

Update on my FMF PP experimentation and use:

This unit has not missed a beat so far.
I like how it's not mounted up under the headlight and having it's wiring being flexed, bent, and twisted with movement of the handlebar.

If you haven't tried it yet (and you're looking for sharper throttle response), try setting modes 4, 5, and 6 with small values, as I typically see values of 4.5 and higher being used.
This reduces the delay in fueling when you open the throttle and makes the bike noticably more responsive.
Right now, I've got values of 1 in these modes and really like it. thumb
What I'll probably end up doing is setting them at .5 to make it as quick as possible. :)
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Broo C em




PostSubject: III Vs 5   Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:34 pm

[quote="0007onWR"]Anyone know how to convert a PCIII map to the PCV?
I know a guy who need's the Rustyg61 map

. .. . further to 007onWR's query, whats the good goss on differences between the PCIII & PC V .. . are the maps interchangeable? Will the V work OK on an '08 (despite supposedly only being for '09) ?.
I dont wanna buy a V for my '08 but then find it wont work, or OTOH buy the III only to be told "Oh you really shoulda gone for the V, they're MUCH better!"
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Cheers from DownUnder ;-]]

PS Regarding FMF Vs PC, guys often rate the PC because of its ability to reduce (not just increase) fuel flow, & the FMF can only increase .. . . . which leads me to a question I've not yet seen asked or answered ~ do PCIII users ever/often/never find that they use a map with a reduced flow in some zones to get an optimal 'tune'? dddog

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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:32 pm

YZEtc wrote:
Update on my FMF PP experimentation and use:

This unit has not missed a beat so far.
I like how it's not mounted up under the headlight and having it's wiring being flexed, bent, and twisted with movement of the handlebar.

If you haven't tried it yet (and you're looking for sharper throttle response), try setting modes 4, 5, and 6 with small values, as I typically see values of 4.5 and higher being used.
This reduces the delay in fueling when you open the throttle and makes the bike noticably more responsive.
Right now, I've got values of 1 in these modes and really like it.
What I'll probably end up doing is setting them at .5 to make it as quick as possible. :)


Just wondering where you have your programmer unit mounted? I can't seem to find any room where my PCIII will be away from heat or water besides under the headlight. Can you post a picture?
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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:26 am

When I had my Power Commander lll on the bike, it was mounted under the headlight as shown in the installation instructions.
The FMF Power Programmer I use now is much thinner and is mounted under the left-hand side cover and velcro-mounted to the forward side of the battery holder. :)
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canitokintax




PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:03 pm

Hi!I´m looking to buy a fmf efi power programmer,but my wrr has O2 sensor.Is O2 sensor compatible with fmf programmer?Somebody have fmf programmer and O2 sensor?
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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:09 am

Broo C em wrote:

Cheers from DownUnder ;-]]

PS Regarding FMF Vs PC, guys often rate the PC because of its ability to reduce (not just increase) fuel flow, & the FMF can only increase .. . . . which leads me to a question I've not yet seen asked or answered ~ do PCIII users ever/often/never find that they use a map with a reduced flow in some zones to get an optimal 'tune'?


Yup. There's some spots on all the maps (AFAIK) where you're actually taking out fuel.
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10Cup




PostSubject: Better mileage   Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:14 pm

Longview wrote:
Broo C em wrote:

Cheers from DownUnder ;-]]

PS Regarding FMF Vs PC, guys often rate the PC because of its ability to reduce (not just increase) fuel flow, & the FMF can only increase .. . . . which leads me to a question I've not yet seen asked or answered ~ do PCIII users ever/often/never find that they use a map with a reduced flow in some zones to get an optimal 'tune'?


Yup. There's some spots on all the maps (AFAIK) where you're actually taking out fuel.


Proly why mileage some times improves. I found that I had just as good or better mileage while on the CD ride. Additionally at the 6K+ altitude I found quite a bit more power and response with the follwing settings.

3, 4, 4, 1, 1, 1

Now back at my normal altitude of 1,380 I went back to 2.5, 4, 4, 1,1,1

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X-Racer




PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:49 pm

Probably off-topic somewhat, but where are the deals for the PCIII ?

I have one on my R1 and I've got the programming part down (somewhat)

I'd rather use what I know I know than to learn what I don't (again). ...and me and my laptop have this bond ya know. That's swy they call it a laptop ya know ! (Not so much like a lap dance - It's different somehow) TMI I realize...

..or do I just get my wallet out and go buy the servo plug-in and PCIII at Dynojet and STFU.
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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:32 pm

sswrx wrote:
YZEtc wrote:
Update on my FMF PP experimentation and use:

This unit has not missed a beat so far.
I like how it's not mounted up under the headlight and having it's wiring being flexed, bent, and twisted with movement of the handlebar.

If you haven't tried it yet (and you're looking for sharper throttle response), try setting modes 4, 5, and 6 with small values, as I typically see values of 4.5 and higher being used.
This reduces the delay in fueling when you open the throttle and makes the bike noticably more responsive.
Right now, I've got values of 1 in these modes and really like it.
What I'll probably end up doing is setting them at .5 to make it as quick as possible. :)



Just wondering where you have your programmer unit mounted? I can't seem to find any room where my PCIII will be away from heat or water besides under the headlight. Can you post a picture?


Moved mine under the seat. Stays dry and is easier to access for tweaks.
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Broo C em




PostSubject: A bit of a glitch   Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:44 pm

Hi all, last weekend I finally got to take my R2 for a decent dose of bush bashing, & I must say how VERY pleased I am with it ~ especially in terms of its ability to pull hard down low rather than having to be revved out. (I'm not an agressive rider, I prefer engines that behave like they came out of tractors!).



I'ld been keeping my previous ride (a GG Pampera) aside rather than selling it until I had found out how the R2 was going to compare ~ & the GG-P is now on the market.



My R2 has all the usual mods now, incl an FMF programmer set to 3,5,.5,8,4,4, which was the last set posted in the Battlethread by Steveakus & Krabil ex dyno.



During the ride I found a tendency of the bike to stall when coming to a stop, or just de-clutched at low revs.

When I went to raise the idle I found that I hadda screw it out a couple of full turns to get even a slightly noticeable increase in revs ~ is this normal, or could it indicate that something else is out, like mebbe the TPS position? I'm used to idle screws that need very little tweaking in order to change the revs.



Thanks for ANY insights.

BrooC DownUnder Shog

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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:21 pm

My idle speed screw acted in a similar manner.
Guess that's how it goes with the WR-250R FI throttle body vs. a screw raising the throttle slide of a carburetor.

Once in a while, my bike will stall at low revs, but it doesn't do it enough to be a major hastle.

I've been using my FMF programmer settings with the 4th, 5th, and 6th modes set at .5
I like the quicker response. :)

Service your air filter often.
If you ride most of a day off road, do it before the next ride.
Use a real foam filter oil, too. :)
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PostSubject: Power Commander III USB maps   Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:20 pm

Anyone else running a PCIII on their WR? Are there any maps other than the ones from Dynojet's site to download? I'm trying to find a good map for a combination using the airbox mod, stock filter, FMF Q4 w/ Powerbomb, & stock gearing on my 09 X. Looking for a good balance between power & fuel efficiency since I do more commuting than recreational riding. I've currently installed the map from Dynojet with the open airbox, Leo Vince pipe combo since it was the closest thing to what I have. I rode today but can't tell if there was a plus or minus in performance from the stock pipe. It felt about the same. Sounded better though.
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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:39 pm

sswrx wrote:
Anyone else running a PCIII on their WR? Are there any maps other than the ones from Dynojet's site to download? I'm trying to find a good map for a combination using the airbox mod, stock filter, FMF Q4 w/ Powerbomb, & stock gearing on my 09 X. Looking for a good balance between power & fuel efficiency since I do more commuting than recreational riding. I've currently installed the map from Dynojet with the open airbox, Leo Vince pipe combo since it was the closest thing to what I have. I rode today but can't tell if there was a plus or minus in performance from the stock pipe. It felt about the same. Sounded better though.


I have the same mods and use the rustyg61 map
I cant figure out how to attach a file but if you PM me your E mail I will send it to you
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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:04 pm

Broo C em wrote:

When I went to raise the idle I found that I hadda screw it out a couple of full turns to get even a slightly noticeable increase in revs ~ is this normal, or could it indicate that something else is out, like mebbe the TPS position? I'm used to idle screws that need very little tweaking in order to change the revs.


That's because the idle adjustment screw on this bike is controlling the amount of air leaking past the throttle valve. On carb bikes you are actually moving the valve, which is indeed a much finer adjustment. This bike with EFI has an idle air screw adjustment. The more you open the screw the more air bypasses the valve allowing the engine to idle higher. Close the screw and you restrict the amount of air bypassing the throttle valve, thus lowering the engine idle speed. What you experienced is normal as far as the engine's reaction time to your adjustments.

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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:00 pm

I wonder if after opening the air bypass you would get a reaction to idle speed by adding some fuel in CO mode
Try going up 10 points and see if idle speed increases
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