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Fly man




PostSubject: Hello   Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:33 pm

Another new guy here. Pretfy sure my next new bike will be a 250 r so came to read and poke around.cheers Ian
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PostSubject: Re: Hello   Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:09 pm

Welcome! Everything you ever wanted to know about a WR here. Post up some questions or browse around. thumb
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PostSubject: Re: Hello   Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:10 pm

Just noticed that was my 400th post!!! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Hello   Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:23 am

When we hit 400 posts do we get a new tire haha
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Fly man




PostSubject: Re: Hello   Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:16 am

Thank you Mcdouble. And Congrats on 400 posts. This one gets me up to 2 lol. I have had dualsport bikes in the past. Currently have dedicated dirt and street bikes. Was hoping to add some lights etc to my dirt bike and be able to license it. Looked into it and rhe laws here in BC Canada are so strict i have a much better chance or winning a lottery or dating Taylor Swift than getting my bike plated. So i started looking around at currently available dualsports that meet my needs. The wr250r seems on reading to meet my wants best. All i really want is a very reliable and low maintenance bike. Good offroad manners for single track and gravel roads, and pipeline type riding. Has to be able to ford some somewhat deep water holes, or rutted up junk, and hop some logs or rocks. Does not need to do i t at race pace.....just do it slowly. Then still be happy to run around town doing errands or short highway jaunts ( say up to 200 kms or about 125 mile maximum....usually far less likely less than half that normally ) to get to places i want to explore. Sometimes I'll put on a backpack and carry my fly rod into remote places to fish. Maybe ride it to work on nice days. i do tend to explore far off the beaten path at times and will need to add range to its fuel supply likely through added carrying capacity via aftermarket gas cans as only need it sometimes. Maybe a rotopak on the rear.About me i am just over 6 foot tall and weigh 196 lbs before gear. Have been riding dirt for 26 years and street for 20 years. I raced a bit of motocross for about 9 years. I will im sure add stuff to the b8ke as time goes by like skid plate and handguards and crash bars etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Hello   Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:12 pm

Welcome, this place is great for technical knowledge. Every question I have come up with has gotten good answers/advice. Way good peeps. Thing is, this is not the most populated place. Don't get me wrong much love and appreciation for the guys/gals who are here!

I bought my bike in December and have been farkling the sh1t out it and will share some learnins I picked up.

I went with the rear rack/rotopax route. It covers a very real need on this bike for more travel time between fill-ups. Eventually I plan on the IMS 3.1 AND the rotopax for 2-300 mile range. I came from a V Strom 650 which is a great bike and now sits lonely in my garage :) but it could do almost 300 between fills.
I would recommend a rear shock spring upgrade pronto, but the bash plate is el numero uno! There are some pre-,ade and if you look homemade HDPE skid plates that will handle most abuse if your not a rock hopper. If you must have the metal plate you will want to cover it with some sound dampening material. I spent about $90 on my plate and another $15 trying to make it soundproof and its just friggen loud. I compounded that error with the FMF megabomb/Q4 combo. They are crazy loud together but the metal plate is the killer.

I also changed my handlebars, grips, levers and added handguards. The only musty is the handguards. I went cheap and already bent them, would recommend a name brand on that one. I added the Eastern Beaver 3 circuit solution.  A great way to make use of the power this bike can put out. And put a 48 tooth sprocket on the rear. The sprocket is a no brainer. Pick up a 14t for the front and a 46-50 t for the rear and you will have all the torque you need. I also bought a 12t for the front but have read some horror stories of people eating through metal parts with the chain so I am hesitant to use it.

Tires, the stocks are great on road, passable on gravel and shite in the woods. I went with the IRC TR8 on the front and a Kenda Trakmaster II on the back. One trip and the Trackmaster is about half used, I expect to get a bout 1k (miles) from it. The front is wearing much nicer. They do ok on road, ok on gravel and rock the sand, dirt and mixed schiza we get here in Oregon. My next rtear will be a MT43 Pirelli, looks sweet but time will tell if I like it.

A small windscreen from the Aussie company "Screens for Bikes". Pretty sweet and really helps without looking like a giant bank tellers window.

I also put on a pair of Dirtbagz. Fantastic product. Minimal mounts, easy to use. Only drawback is they are not waterproof so I have a Kreiga 15 on top of the Rotopax for anything that cant get wet and use waterproof stuff bags in the DB's. Plus the whole setup is like $250.

I have an extra rear mount, Pro Moto Billet, that wont work with my configuration. If your interested it comes without mounting hardware but I could part it off for a significant savings if your interested. Hell, my bash plate will be up soon too when I get the plastic one.

Enough with the sales pitch though. Just wanted to let you know another noobs experience over the last couple months. Now that we have covered the hardware....

I have ridden this on single track in the Oregon coast range, on Mt Hood and out in the high desert with the Croioked River meetup a few weeks agao. I have never ridden single track before so I dont know how it compares to other bikes, but I had a freakin blast. Its not the most fun on the 200 miles of road, but its not terrible either. Switching out sprockets can really affect this. Hell, I had one of the ADV'ers fropm the Crooked River come up to me after about 50 miles of road going "Wow, that 250 can really move!" I just smiled and nodded  wink

I have ZERO regrets about purchasing this bike. I will continue to add some suspension upgrades as time goes by but for this summer she is done and I will ride it like I stole it (or its heavily insured :)) I really like my V Strom but I have to admit I oretty quickly wanted it to be something else. I own it, I'll keep it but this WRR is just my go to for fun riding now.

I hope all this rambling helps you with your decisions, welcome to the forum.  wings


Fly man wrote:
Thank you Mcdouble. And Congrats on 400 posts. This one gets me up to 2 lol. I have had dualsport bikes in the past. Currently have dedicated dirt and street bikes. Was hoping to add some lights etc to my dirt bike and be able to license it. Looked into it and rhe laws here in BC Canada are so strict i have a much better chance or winning a lottery or dating Taylor Swift than getting my bike plated. So i started looking around at currently available dualsports that meet my needs. The wr250r seems on reading to meet my wants best. All i really want is a very reliable and low maintenance bike. Good offroad manners for single track and gravel roads, and pipeline type riding. Has to be able to ford some somewhat deep water holes,  or rutted up junk, and hop some logs or rocks. Does not need to do i t at race pace.....just do it slowly. Then still be happy to run around town doing errands or short  highway jaunts ( say up to 200 kms or about 125 mile maximum....usually far less likely less than half that normally ) to get to places i want to explore.  Sometimes I'll put on a backpack and carry my fly rod into remote places to fish. Maybe ride it to work on nice days. i do tend to explore far off the beaten path at times and will need to add range to its fuel supply likely through added carrying capacity via aftermarket gas cans as only need it sometimes. Maybe a rotopak on the rear.About me i am just over 6 foot tall and weigh 196 lbs before gear. Have been riding dirt for 26 years and street for 20 years. I raced a bit of motocross for about 9 years. I will im sure add stuff to the b8ke as time goes by like skid plate and handguards and crash bars etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Hello   Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:49 pm

Awesome post Doc.Thanks very much for the info. I am going in the next 2 weeks to buy a new DS bike and am 99.9% sure it will be the yami 250r. Can you tell me more about your rotopak rack and fuel can please. What all is needed to mount it to a stock bike. Is it eaeasy to use and tough. Any advice on good crash bars? I am a crappy rider and when offroad fall a lot.....and i do mean a lot. Last year did a 3 day ride and fell at least a dozen times or more in 3 days. Usually just low speed tip overs. Point is i am not so skilled i never drop my bike lol This being much lighter than my last DS tank i hope to fall a bit less. It was too much bike for me.
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PostSubject: Re: Hello   Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:45 pm

It was pretty easy to mount and the Rotopax gas carriers can take a beating. I used a GYTR rack but they can be attached to most of the back plates.

All loaded still from last trip:


the container:


the rack:


its a few minutes to get it off and on again but I have about $100 in those parts so pretty cheap. Its the 1.75 gallon so its basically a full tank.

Crash bars are really not needed with this. I drop it, I pick it up and off I go  Shog

the plastics are cheap to replace, its not like the hard fairings, although the headlight can be expensive. Someone sells a nice wire cover for that but it was kind of spendy.
Low-speed tipovers this bike can take :)

good luck shopping!

Fly man wrote:
Awesome post Doc.Thanks very much for the info. I am going in the next 2 weeks to buy a new DS bike and am 99.9% sure it will be the yami 250r. Can you tell me more about your rotopak rack and fuel can please. What all is needed to mount it to a stock bike. Is it eaeasy to use and tough. Any advice on good crash bars? I am a crappy rider and when offroad fall a lot.....and  i do mean a lot. Last year did a 3 day ride and fell at least a dozen times or more in 3 days. Usually just low speed tip overs. Point is i am not so skilled  i never drop my bike lol  This being much lighter than my last DS tank i hope to fall a bit less. It was too much bike for me.
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Fly man




PostSubject: Re: Hello   Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:00 pm

You are great. ...thanks again. So the rad is somewhat protected and the engine side case when you drop it. Dropping my Tiger without crash bars could get nasty in a hurry.This will be my fourth DS bike and i plan to keep it a long time. Seems it just took me a whike to figure out what i really want from a DS as it cannot be perfect at everything. That windshield i saw part of in the one photo looks like it would do well for my style of use to. Again my thanks. Ian aka Flyman
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PostSubject: Re: Hello   Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:42 pm

Fly man wrote:
You are great. ...thanks again. So the rad is somewhat protected and the engine side case when you drop it. Dropping my Tiger without crash bars could get nasty in a hurry.This will be my fourth DS bike and  i plan to keep it a long time. Seems it just took me a whike to figure out what i really want from a DS as it cannot be perfect at everything. That windshield i saw part of in the one photo looks like it would do well for my style of use to. Again my thanks. Ian aka Flyman

Crashbars are not needed on this bike but I would recommend a radiator guard. Even with a guard I managed to mangle my radiator when somebody on a KTM clipped me passing on a narrow trail.
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Fly man




PostSubject: Re: Hello   Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:47 pm

Thanks Dogfarm. What rad guards would you recommend?
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PostSubject: Re: Hello   Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:54 pm

[quote="doc_simple"]It was pretty easy to mount and the Rotopax gas carriers can take a beating. I used a GYTR rack but they can be attached to most of the back plates.

I use the Rotopax gas carrier on my Wolfman racks.  The bike gets such good gas mileage that even the stock tank works most of the time. Nice thing about this bike is that there are not too many places you can't go with it. Here a pic which shows my bike loaded up for a day trip and about to do a water crossing in Colorado.

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PostSubject: Re: Hello   Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:09 pm

those are a nice setup but I dont think you can get the wolfman racks anymore unless you find a used set. I have been looking at ways to use the DB racks but they are much lighter weight than yours. There is another company that makes a similar rack but the rack with Rotopax additional mount its like $300 delivered + Rotopax. I did my setup for $100+ the rotopax stuff,  while I would rather have the weight down low on the back it has not caused me any issues.


and the water crossing looks sweet  thumb


also I have the moose racing rad guard. Nice side crush protection but nothing across the rad face. a little disappointed in it.....


dogfarm wrote:
doc_simple wrote:
It was pretty easy to mount and the Rotopax gas carriers can take a beating. I used a GYTR rack but they can be attached to most of the back plates.

I use the Rotopax gas carrier on my Wolfman racks.  The bike gets such good gas mileage that even the stock tank works most of the time. Nice thing about this bike is that there are not too many places you can't go with it. Here a pic which shows my bike loaded up for a day trip and about to do a water crossing in Colorado.

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PostSubject: Re: Hello   Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:32 pm

Fly man wrote:
Thanks Dogfarm. What rad guards would you recommend?

Not sure, I bought my 2008 used and it came with the Flatlander guard http://www.flatlandracing.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=FR&Product_Code=12-40&Category_Code=12-yam

I think it is okay for tipovers but there are probably other ones that are stronger. Probably depends on how much you want to spend on one, the stronger ones are going to be more expensive.
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PostSubject: Re: Hello   Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:43 pm

That is an area i will spend whatever i need to on. Smashing a rad 100 mioes from nowhere is not going to end well.
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