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mcdoudlehopper

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PostSubject: Super Dooper air filter oil?   Sun May 03, 2015 10:09 pm

So I washed the bike today and tried to clean my airfilter. So I washed it twice with dish soap scratch washed it twice with Goop-orange clean scratch and still cannot get the oil out. baldy After four washes, its still sticky and if you fold it in half, it still strings off. Not sure why I cant get the oil out but it was still so tacky, I just put it back in. Afterwards, I had to wash my hands twice with orange goop to get the tacky off. Has anyone had this happen? I don't remember having trouble washing the oil out. BTW Im using the Yamaha Air filter oil.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Dooper air filter oil?   Sun May 03, 2015 11:01 pm

mcdoudlehopper wrote:
So I washed the bike today and tried to clean my airfilter. So I washed it twice with dish soap scratch washed it twice with Goop-orange clean scratch and still cannot get the oil out.  baldy  After four washes, its still sticky and if you fold it in half, it still strings off. Not sure why I cant get the oil out but it was still so tacky, I just put it back in. Afterwards, I had to wash my hands twice with orange goop to get the tacky off. Has anyone had this happen? I don't remember having trouble washing the oil out. BTW Im using the Yamaha Air filter oil.

I don't know about that oil but the oil from Uni Filter is similar. It says to clean their oil filter with turps. Its only been on a week or so. I am yet to clean it but oiling it was a fairly messy experience.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Dooper air filter oil?   Mon May 04, 2015 6:28 am

You need to use something that actually cuts the oil.
Soap and water won't do it.

Use either plain ol' gasoline (no smoking) or one of the foam air filter cleaners sold that are made for doing this job, as either of these will cut through the filter oil.
Then, use plain ol' soap and water to get the gasoline or filter cleaner out.
After that, rinse with plain water and then dry every drop of water out of the foam.

After it's dry, apply new FOAM FILTER OIL (not K&N oil), work the oil into the entire area of the foam, and squeeze out as much excess as you can.
Then, put the filter back into the airbox, making sure it's properly seated and sealing against the airbox.

By the way, that's FOAM FILTER CLEANER, not K&N filter cleaner.
That's FOAM FILTER OIL, not K&N filter oil.

My only choice in foam filter oil has been Maxima FFT for over 30 years, now.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Dooper air filter oil?   Mon May 04, 2015 7:00 am

I wash mine in gasoline. Diesel is probably safer. I use motor oil but instead of working it in I mix it 4:1 gasoline to oil and soak the filter in it the wring it slightly and let it dry. You get an even oiling.
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Biglake




PostSubject: Re: Super Dooper air filter oil?   Mon May 04, 2015 6:09 pm

I use maxxima fft air filter oil, its very similar to the yamaha stuff and needs more than soap and water to get it out of the filter.

To clean filters I dunk them in a bucket of diesel fuel (that I keep in the corner of the garage with a lid on it just for cleaning filters) and wring them out a bit, all the oil comes right out then I rinse the filter with water from the inside out until all the diesels gone.

You can also use gas like mentioned but I'd rather have a bucket of diesel than gas sitting around.

You can also use wd40, contact cleaner, varsol, paint thinner, degreaser, etc, anything that desolves oil will work.

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mcdoudlehopper

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PostSubject: Re: Super Dooper air filter oil?   Mon May 04, 2015 9:48 pm

Sounds good I will try to cut it with one of these solvents then. Thanks thumb
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PostSubject: Re: Super Dooper air filter oil?   Tue May 05, 2015 12:32 am

I like odorless mineral spirits for this job. Not as nasty to work with as other solvents. Cheap too.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Dooper air filter oil?   Tue May 05, 2015 8:43 pm

YZEtc wrote:
You need to use something that actually cuts the oil.
Soap and water won't do it.

Use either plain ol' gasoline (no smoking) or one of the foam air filter cleaners sold that are made for doing this job, as either of these will cut through the filter oil.
Then, use plain ol' soap and water to get the gasoline or filter cleaner out.
After that, rinse with plain water and then dry every drop of water out of the foam.

After it's dry, apply new FOAM FILTER OIL (not K&N oil), work the oil into the entire area of the foam, and squeeze out as much excess as you can.
Then, put the filter back into the airbox, making sure it's properly seated and sealing against the airbox.

By the way, that's FOAM FILTER CLEANER, not K&N filter cleaner.
That's FOAM FILTER OIL, not K&N filter oil.

My only choice in foam filter oil has been Maxima FFT for over 30 years, now.

Why is K&N filter oil and cleaner so bad? dunno
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Fiftygrit

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PostSubject: Re: Super Dooper air filter oil?   Tue May 05, 2015 11:48 pm

My brotherinlaw had a K&N on his razer and it cooked the motor, low mileage, they breath better but they also let a lot of sand and dust into the motor, he ran his in Arizona, on my Dodge RAM diesel they said if I ran one they would void the warranty, thats enough for me.
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YZEtc

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PostSubject: Re: Super Dooper air filter oil?   Wed May 06, 2015 4:53 am

WolfpackFBNS wrote:

Why is K&N filter oil and cleaner so bad? dunno

It's not because K&N filter oil and cleaner won't work where they're supposed to be used (on K&N filters, which are made of cotton gauze, not foam), it's because you don't use K&N oil and cleaner on foam air filters.
That's the mistake riders can make:
Assuming a filter oil is a filter oil and just use any old oil you have laying around.

Riders also use their own home-brewed concoctions on foam filters, too, like bar and chain oil for chain saws, plain ol' engine oil, Pam cooking spray (not kidding), etc.
Not sure why.
This is stopping incoming dirt from messing-up your engine's innards we're talking about.

Foam filter oils pour out of the bottle thin and then get sticky when exposed to the air a few seconds later.
This way, the oil stays on the foam and doesn't eventually run down to the bottom of the filter and drip off onto the bottom of the airbox, and the dirt particles get trapped by the sticky oil very well.
This is why every dirt bike comes with an oiled foam air filter and you are told to use foam air filter oil.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Dooper air filter oil?   Wed May 06, 2015 7:32 am

YZEtc wrote:
WolfpackFBNS wrote:

Why is K&N filter oil and cleaner so bad? dunno

It's not because K&N filter oil and cleaner won't work where they're supposed to be used (on K&N filters, which are made of cotton gauze, not foam), it's because you don't use K&N oil and cleaner on foam air filters.
That's the mistake riders can make:
Assuming a filter oil is a filter oil and just use any old oil you have laying around.

Riders also use their own home-brewed concoctions on foam filters, too, like bar and chain oil for chain saws, plain ol' engine oil, Pam cooking spray (not kidding), etc.
Not sure why.
This is stopping incoming dirt from messing-up your engine's innards we're talking about.

Foam filter oils pour out of the bottle thin and then get sticky when exposed to the air a few seconds later.
This way, the oil stays on the foam and doesn't eventually run down to the bottom of the filter and drip off onto the bottom of the airbox, and the dirt particles get trapped by the sticky oil very well.
This is why every dirt bike comes with an oiled foam air filter and you are told to use foam air filter oil.

Damn! Good point. I didn't know that. I better order a new filter or clean the one I have and reoil it with foam filter oil.
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