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cloudbuster




PostSubject: Gas Flooded    Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:37 pm

Can you bump start like this?
or just remove spark plug and go from there.

The pump is working I hear it, I also tried the full throttle start, that kind of make a sound that it would run but no.

battery is full, I even used a jumper to make sure.

Thanks!
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Jens Eskildsen




PostSubject: Re: Gas Flooded    Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:11 am

Yes, this bike can be bumpstarted it thats what you're asking thumb
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brokeagain




PostSubject: Re: Gas Flooded    Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:58 am

Take the plug out and let it dry, if it's convenient to do. The FI system keeps pumping fuel in, making it hard to start in some situations. I don't know how to get around that otherwise without chancing killing the battery.
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cloudbuster




PostSubject: Re: Gas Flooded    Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:06 pm

I wonder if I can also remove the Fuel pump/Injection fuse and headlight fuse until I get it running.

that way it wont keep pumping gas.

how long can you keep the started pinned to try to get it to start?


if that don't work then I will try the bump start I just don't have a big hill near by.
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Elm




PostSubject: Re: Gas Flooded    Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:54 am

If you remove the FI fuse it won't run.
Hold the throttle wide open and don't close it and leave ignition on.
Spin the motor for a few seconds at a time then wait 10 seconds to allow battery to settle then spin again. Should hear it attempt to start.
Keep throttle open & key on but make sure battery is still strong.
Persevere. It will start to chug then start.
Worked for me.
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cloudbuster




PostSubject: Re: Gas Flooded    Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:34 pm

Elm wrote:
If you remove the FI fuse it won't run.
Hold the throttle wide open and don't close it and leave ignition on.
Spin the motor for a few seconds at a time then wait 10 seconds to allow battery to settle then spin again. Should hear it attempt to start.
Keep throttle open & key on but make sure battery is still strong.
Persevere. It will start to chug then start.
Worked for me.

Is there anyway to stop the prime process, as every time I try to start it just would add more and more fuel to the chamber if I am not mistaken.
I did that a few times, throttle wide open ignition on, and pin the starter sometimes it does sound like a small pop that it would run.
but after I let go of the started I hear the fuel pump so I don't know if it keep pumping more fuel on the chamber. that why I asked if removing the FI fuse would work. would the spark still keep electricity and start with what ever fuel is in the chamber?

Thanks.
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Elm




PostSubject: Re: Gas Flooded    Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:18 pm

Try removing the air filter to allow more air in.
Drain the tank / disconnecting the fuel supply line, will prevent priming.
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cloudbuster




PostSubject: Re: Gas Flooded    Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:05 pm

Elm wrote:
Try removing the air filter to allow more air in.
Drain the tank / disconnecting the fuel supply line, will prevent priming.

good suggestions,
I will do that let see how much gas I can remove from the tank.
Let see if I can figure out the fuel supply line, I suppose the big line right under the fuel tank. Would I have to remove the fuel tank for that?
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Elm




PostSubject: Re: Gas Flooded    Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:12 pm

You don't have to remove but you do have to unbolt tank & lift. It will then be connected by the fuel lines and the pump electrical connector. All are quick connections. I disconnect the fuel line at the bottom junction. I don't know for sure but I suspect both the tank connection and the bottom connection are dry break.
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Jens Eskildsen




PostSubject: Re: Gas Flooded    Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:42 am

I think youre overcomplicating it. Throttle wide open, and crank. This will start just about any flooded bike.

Are you sure it flooded, and not something else?
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blusmoke




PostSubject: Re: Gas Flooded    Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:06 am

Has this been resolved? I don't know if a fuel injected motor can be flooded in the traditional sense

Ive stalled under load before but never had it been too difficult to restart
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cloudbuster




PostSubject: Re: Gas Flooded    Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:19 pm

not solved yet.

I am not 100% sure is a flooded issue, I figure since the fuel pump keep priming every time I crank the starter it got flooded.

I just removed the spark plug. Don't look to clean, I be installing a new one. it had the iridium one.

I think it might also be a electrical problem, sometimes the headlight does not turn on, but after a few tries with the starter the light come on.
The battery is fully charged, I even connected external jumper but bike did not start.


Thanks.

today it was sounding way better, but still was not able to stay running.
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cloudbuster




PostSubject: Re: Gas Flooded    Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:58 pm

follow up,

So after I tried almost everything I could do, I gave up took it to a shop and it was determine the pump was not working.
after they replaced it now it running again.

all the reading suggested that the pump gave you a sign of not starting once it was hot, but the bike was super cold. and I could hear the pump priming.
that why I never even considered the pump.
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PostSubject: Re: Gas Flooded    Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:21 am

Glad it's running, and thank you for posting the results.
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Elm




PostSubject: Re: Gas Flooded    Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:58 am

You could hear pump running but they claim pump not 'working'. That's a little strange. Anyway, glad to hear you're back up & running. Thanks for closing.
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