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PeteJE




PostSubject: Sumo conversion   Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:35 pm

The Warp 9 wheels are a bit pricey. Is a sumo conversion worth it? How does it ride vs just sticking with my 90/10 Shinko tires? Want to know the real world ride difference and was it worth it to have the sumo wheels, if anyone has that experience? My other bike is a street triple and I use the WR as a second bike mostly on street. I love it and just wondering about this because I’ve run out of things to do with it, lol.
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rsteiger

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PostSubject: Re: Sumo conversion   Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:07 pm

PeteJE wrote:
The Warp 9 wheels are a bit pricey.  Is a sumo conversion worth it?  How does it ride vs just sticking with my 90/10 Shinko tires?  Want to know the real world ride difference and was it worth it to have the sumo wheels, if anyone has that experience? My other bike is a street triple and I use the WR as a second bike mostly on street.  I love it and just wondering about this because I’ve run out of things to do with it, lol.

Well with the 17" tires the bike changes direction scary quick.

A friend of mine has a set of Sumo wheels for his WR250R and I got to ride it once and I now refer to it as the 'Widow maker'. Thing was stupid quick to turn and I got off of it as soon as I could. He rides it around with his steering damper turn all the way up to keep out of tank slapper territory.

I have ran Shinko 705's on my WRR's stock wheels and it is a much more relaxed ride than his Supermoto setup.

While I can see why some guys really like the SM setup it is just not my cup of tea.
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PeteJE




PostSubject: Re: Sumo conversion   Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:17 pm

Thanks, that is the kind of input that I really needed! I will definitely use a try befor buy outlook on it as I do really like the ride but was wondering what the sumo is really all about. Sometimes I just get bored......
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Hertz

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PostSubject: Re: Sumo conversion   Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:35 pm

I have both Warp 9 SM wheels and the stock wheels which I have been running Non DOT dirt tires on. I switch the wheels quite regularly. Obviously the non DOT dirt bike tires are rough, loud, and squirrelly on the street. So I don’t think I need to tell you how much more pleasant the SM setup is to ride on the street.

I have not had the same “quick turning” experience as rsteiger. Turning is definitely more responsive but I have never felt it to be too much or unpleasant, quite the opposite in fact. It’s actually quite nice not having all the sloppiness that comes with the dirt setup.
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PeteJE




PostSubject: Re: Sumo conversion   Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:52 am

Thanks. Hows the braking with the warp 9s ( assume same size rotor and heard only change is routing the brake line differently)?
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rsteiger

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PostSubject: Re: Sumo conversion   Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:54 am

Hertz wrote:
I have both Warp 9 SM wheels and the stock wheels which I have been running Non DOT dirt tires on. I switch the wheels quite regularly. Obviously the non DOT dirt bike tires are rough, loud, and squirrelly on the street. So I don’t think I need to tell you how much more pleasant the SM setup is to ride on the street.

I have not had the same “quick turning” experience as rsteiger. Turning is definitely more responsive but I have never felt it to be too much or unpleasant, quite the opposite in fact. It’s actually quite nice not having all the sloppiness that comes with the dirt setup.

You know I was just thinking about my friend's WRR with Sumo wheels and I know he had the suspension rebuilt and revalved and then set the sag for his weight. He also increased the ride height in the rear for more clearance and quicker turning. This likely would change the geometry of the bike especially compared to stock. I suspect once he put the Sumo wheels on the steering became super quick especially with the smaller front wheel.

Given how much adjustment is on the shock clevis you probably could tune the steering response to a large degree in either setup.
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pumpernickelBrad




PostSubject: Re: Sumo conversion   Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:54 pm

I also had a set of Warp 9's, didn't experience any weird turn in or stability issues.

I found that changing the diameter of the wheels made it accelerate and stop quickly due to mechanical advantage but it ran out of top end really quickly and needed a lot of shifting.
If you're staying in the city it shouldn't be an issue if you like shifting.

I eventually got tired of switching to dirt wheels every time I wanted to do anything off road and after a couple times just never put the sumo wheels back on.
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