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 Ex-DRZ owners?

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drifteast




PostSubject: Ex-DRZ owners?   Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:06 pm

FWIW, I did some searching on this topic but couldn't find anything; I suspect my searching skills are the problem... Anyway, it's been a while since I was last on here; I had to look at own watched topics to even know how long ago it was. That was back in 2014 when I had a KLR and I was considering a WR; the KLR was just too heavy for what I wanted to do with it and I wanted something more manageable. I eventually settled on a Yamaha XT250 but quickly realized that it was not comfortable to ride; while I'm only 5' 10", it was really cramped. Didn't mind the power as I'm a pretty conservative rider but I'd be in pain after riding it. So I sold the XT, did some more research, and decided that a DRZ400 would be more suitable. Still lighter than the KLR but not overly heavy (relatively speaking) and tons of aftermarket support. Only managed to put 500km on it the first year and didn't get to ride it this year at all 'cause I messed up my back in the early spring.

While lying in bed in pain all riding season, I started to ponder my riding future and started wondering if the DRZ was now going to be too much bike given my back issues (I expect to heal but will need to be more careful in the future). The "maybe I should get something lighter again" thoughts... The first obvious choice was the KLX250; lower than the DRZ, a little lighter and maneuverable, easier to pick up, etc. I initially dismissed the WR because of the seat height (sat on one in a dealership a few years ago and it was a little intimidating) and started to do it again this time. But I know that in terms of value, technology, etc. that the WR is a better bike for the money. Which all comes back to...

Any ex-DRZ owners out there to share their experiences in moving to a WR? The only negative for me is really the seat height; if I can get that down a little lower (the stock seat height change + maybe an aftermarket seat) I think it would be clearer. Is the WR top-heavy like a DRZ? I think the WR subframe is a little stronger than the KLX as well so if I wanted to throw a 1-gallon Rotopax on the back, I'm guessing it would be fine on the WR. Anyway, thanks in advance for opinions. In the meantime, I'll keep reading!
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njbill

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PostSubject: Re: Ex-DRZ owners?   Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:32 pm

I had DRZ400S for a couple years. After that, I had a WR250R for seven years. In my opinion, the WRR did everything better than the DRZ. There was a slight power difference, especially in the low end, but the WRR's transmission is light years better than the DRZ.
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drifteast




PostSubject: Re: Ex-DRZ owners?   Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:46 pm

njbill wrote:
I had DRZ400S for a couple years. After that, I had a WR250R for seven years. In my opinion, the WRR did everything better than the DRZ. There was a slight power difference, especially in the low end, but the WRR's transmission is light years better than the DRZ.

Thanks for the reply!  Can I ask how tall you are and whether you did anything to lower the WR?
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rsteiger

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PostSubject: Re: Ex-DRZ owners?   Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:27 am

At the rear shock there is a clevis that will allow you to change the rear ride height a bit. Not sure how much you can get out of it.

You can also slip the forks up in the Triples a bit. Also Seat Concepts makes a Low Seat which puts you an inch closer to the ground.

Just remember being able to touch the ground is over rated... every time I touch the ground when riding bad things happen.
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YZEtc

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PostSubject: Re: Ex-DRZ owners?   Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:52 am

You're "only" 5' 10" tall?
Well, I'm 5' 5", so you can probably guess what I think whenever I read things like this.

I owned a 2008 WR250R, then a 2009 DR-Z400SM (motard version), and then a 2008 WR250X (motard version).
Once you lower the WR250R ride height adjuster at the bottom shock clevis (I also slid the fork tubes up in the triple clamps about 5 millimeters), the seat heights are similar.
The weights of the bikes on a scale are in the ballpark, but what people won't always mention is that the smaller-displacing bike will feel lighter while in motion due to less engine inertia (gyroscopic mass).

So in my opinion, it comes down to whether you want a 250 or a 400.
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njbill

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PostSubject: Re: Ex-DRZ owners?   Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:38 am

drifteast wrote:
njbill wrote:
I had DRZ400S for a couple years. After that, I had a WR250R for seven years. In my opinion, the WRR did everything better than the DRZ. There was a slight power difference, especially in the low end, but the WRR's transmission is light years better than the DRZ.

Thanks for the reply!  Can I ask how tall you are and whether you did anything to lower the WR?

I'm 5'9" with a 30" inseam. I did not lower the bike. My riding requires every inch of suspension. I had a YZ125 when I was 15 years old, so I am used to tall bikes. YMMV
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on2wheels52




PostSubject: Re: Ex-DRZ owners?   Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:48 am

I had a DRz for 15 years prior to the WR. It was my short range DS bike (had two larger ones with panniers), don't think it hardly left my county :)
I view the WR as an upgrade, feels 20+ lbs lighter and about the same power. Plus better suspension and that extra gear.
But the real treat was mounting a rear case and getting soft bags. Minimalist camping! I could go a couple of weeks on the thing. I just never thought about doing the same with the DRz, just always took a bigger bike.
I'm a 32" inseam, get along fine with the standard setup. I've ridden a WR with a Yamalink but didn't feel the need to get one for myself. Perhaps when I'm older, only 66 now.
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drifteast




PostSubject: Re: Ex-DRZ owners?   Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:24 pm

Thanks for all the replies! Very, very helpful. I probably should have used the word "downsize" rather than "downgrade". Like I said, I know the WR is a better bike in the end and I've often thought that if I'd gotten the WR instead of the XT, I likely would have been happy. Re: the comment about my height, the only reason I mentioned it in the way that I did because most people I come across who have WRs are 6' or taller. So, to me, my height almost seemed like a detriment; I'm definitely glad to hear that's not the case.

I know there's way too much emphasis put on being able to flat-foot a bike; I certainly don't think that's a requirement but I think as long as I could get a WR height down an inch or so, I'd be happy. Sounds like it's definitely doable based on the responses. YZEtc makes a good point about a smaller displacement bike feeling lighter too. Since I don't have a WR available around here to test ride, do folks find them generally top heavy? Or somewhat well-balanced? Or is every tall bike going to feel top heavy?
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YZEtc

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PostSubject: Re: Ex-DRZ owners?   Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:47 pm

I felt my WR250R was a very good-handling and good-feeling motorcycle.
Did not feel top-heavy to me at all.
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johnkol




PostSubject: Re: Ex-DRZ owners?   Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:17 am

I never owned a DRZ, but I had ridden a DRZ-E back in the day extensively. The DRZ trounces the WRR in terms of power, something that is especially noticeable on mountain roads; if your primary use is off-road, then the lack of power of the WRR is not an issue.

I found the DRZ to be not just heavy, but top heavy too; the WRR feels 50 pounds lighter by comparison, although the WRR is a bit top heavy too. Suspension-wise both bikes need help (time and money); ergonomics are pretty much the same.

Seat height on the WRR should not be an issue for you: I'm 5'6" and I have not lowered the bike.
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