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Jäger
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PostSubject: Puppy needs a name... ideas?   Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:46 am

The last year has been a tough one for us. Aside from losing my mother and father just a few months apart, we also lost my Jäger, and a few weeks ago, our rescue Griff Piper. Got so I was afraid to get out of bed in the morning.

After losing Jags and Piper (and Holly Dolly the year before), my wife Les still had Kiren The Little Beer dog, a puppy out of Jags:





but I had pretty much decided no more puppies for me. For me, losing them is like l imagine losing a kid would be, and I figured I'd had about enough. Lots of friends have lots of great dogs to pet and scratch their ears.

Of course, the essential problem with this is it assumes the wife is going to go with the program.

The short story is there is now another Griff puppy in the family. Well, not quite a puppy anymore, he's six months old:







One minor problem: he doesn't have a name yet except "Blue". Now who the hell would name a Wirehaired Pointing Griffon "Blue"??? Don't work.

Pups are usually easy to name after watching them bumbling around the house the first couple of days after they come home. This little guy, however, we didn't have that opportunity. I've seen enough of him to know he's absolutely psychotic for birds, so good that we're probably taking him out for his first Sharpie and pheasant hunt within a few days. He's almost steady to point, for crying out loud. But, not a lot to give insight to his personality just yet.

So he needs his goofy registered name and a call name.

The registered name has to start with Sapphire because of the Montana kennel he is out of. That shouldn't be too hard as I don't much care about that. Sapphire Alpine Lakes, Sapphire Kootenay Thumper... whatever.

But I am absolutely blanking on a call name for the little guy. His Dad's name is Jock... hmmm. He's kind of incredibly self possessed for a puppy. How about "Laird"?

Anyways, thought you might enjoy the pics. Feel free to suggest names. But with dogs in my past named "Leben", "Jäger", etc, names like "Bob", "Pal", etc don't cut it. Dogs are dignified, classy characters most humans could take lessons on that from, and they deserve nothing less than a name that fits that.
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marty




PostSubject: Re: Puppy needs a name... ideas?   Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:16 am

starbuck
killian
paul
james (jamie)
brimley
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TimdogWR




PostSubject: Re: Puppy needs a name... ideas?   Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:15 pm

You Should Name Him SWAGGER!
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TimdogWR




PostSubject: Re: Puppy needs a name... ideas?   Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:16 pm

He kinda looks like a CHARLIE too!
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cryptomundo




PostSubject: Re: Puppy needs a name... ideas?   Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:27 am


I dont know why, but I think about a book I read (again) recently "Graceling" by Kristin Cashore. Gracelings are persons who are graced with a special talents. A graceling also has different color eyes (one eye is a color different than the other) which is how you know someone is graced. What ever their talent (fighting, hunting, cooking,..) they are very gifted in it. Poe is the main male character who has a special talent (no spoilers here) and for some reason when you mentioned how talented your puppy is with hunting and the eyes in the photos, I thought of the name "Poe"
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3KGT_Maddness




PostSubject: Re: Puppy needs a name... ideas?   Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:42 am

My uncle has a Wired Hair Pointing Griffen.....

So he named him Griff. wink
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rokka




PostSubject: Rambo !   Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:45 am

Rambo !


That kind of dogs are wery popular around here. A lot of people hunt birds with them. I dont know the name of bird in english but in sami language its Giron witch is the name of my home town. Famous grouse whisky botles have a picture of that bird. I think Rambo would be the name that fits both dog and owner Very happy
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Dancamp




PostSubject: Re: Puppy needs a name... ideas?   Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:34 am

Is it a Drahthaar or a Korthals.

That could give a clue as a German or French name.
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2goose




PostSubject: Re: Puppy needs a name... ideas?   Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:52 am

Ding
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Jäger
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PostSubject: Re: Puppy needs a name... ideas?   Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:40 am

3KGT_Maddness wrote:
My uncle has a Wired Hair Pointing Griffen.....

So he named him Griff. wink


Funny that... about 20% of the Griffs out there are named Griff...

I didn't call my Chesapeakes back when I was a waterfowler "Chess" either - but I knew guys who did.

Along with lots of "Coco", "Rusty", etc.

I think there's already enough "Griff"'s being called out there.
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3KGT_Maddness




PostSubject: Re: Puppy needs a name... ideas?   Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:43 am

Jäger wrote:


Funny that... about 20% of the Griffs out there are named Griff...

I didn't call my Chesapeakes back when I was a waterfowler "Chess" either - but I knew guys who did.

Along with lots of "Coco", "Rusty", etc.

I think there's already enough "Griff"'s being called out there.


Funny that... We actually had a Chesapeake also. Her name was Leah though. Called her "Red Dog"
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PostSubject: Re: Puppy needs a name... ideas?   Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:48 am

Dancamp wrote:
Is it a Drahthaar or a Korthals.

That could give a clue as a German or French name.

A Drathaar is a totally separate breed, no links at all. About the closest thing to a Griff is a Cesky Fousek. Korthals was indeed the originator of the breed, but he was a Dutch guy who developed the breed under the patronage of a German in Germany. There is some discussion of renaming the breed Korthal's Griffon due to an offshoot bunch of breeders deciding to crossbreed to the Cesky Fousek, but most Griffon owners don't care much one way or the other. The Kennel Clubs don't recognize the crossbreeds as a Wirehaired Pointing Griffon, and as long as the two breeds are kept separate in registries, again most of us don't care. I don't want a Griffoo, and I suppose there are some people who think a crossbreed is the only way to go.

His Dad has a Scottish name, although I've had several Griffs with German names. French names... neh, not so much.

The Griffs are very popular in France and parts of Quebec, however.
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PostSubject: Re: Puppy needs a name... ideas?   Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:54 am

rokka wrote:
Rambo !

Agghhhhhh!
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That kind of dogs are wery popular around here. A lot of people hunt birds with them. I dont know the name of bird in english but in sami language its Giron witch is the name of my home town. Famous grouse whisky botles have a picture of that bird.

The bird on the bottle is the red grouse.

We don't have red grouse here, but we do have ruffed grouse, spruce grouse, blue grouse, and sharptailed grouse.

In fact, I'm about to take off to introduce the little fella to grouse hunting this weekend.

You have a lot of Griffs over there? That's interesting!
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Jäger
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PostSubject: Re: Puppy needs a name... ideas?   Fri Sep 24, 2010 10:32 am

2goose wrote:
Ding

Followed by "dong", I suppose...

Current potential names, with Laird front running:
Laird - lord
Alpin - blond (check the 'stache)
Broc - badger (he's a digger, gotta fix that)
Vika - from the creek (well, we can't keep him out of it)
Lach - lives by a lake (well, we do)
Kin - from the top of the cliff (yeah, we live by them too)
Lachlan - warring (nah, don't know why that one popped up)
Wilda - untamed (hmmmm... bad scoobies)

Gotta get out of here and out after them birds.
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rokka




PostSubject: Maybe i am wrong   Fri Sep 24, 2010 10:40 am

Well maybe i am wrong. We had dogs like that in the family but we call them worster.

http://www.google.se/imgres?imgurl=http://www.hojtskennel.com/bilder/Damw.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.hojtskennel.com/avkommor_terve.htm&usg=__jBb-8EJ5QgElJYNNGLdf_TPyPJc=&h=167&w=250&sz=5&hl=sv&start=53&zoom=1&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=789ZzwKJdsjDQM:&tbnh=74&tbnw=111&prev=/images%3Fq%3DKiruna%2B%252B%2Bripjakt%26start%3D42%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dsv%26sa%3DN%26rlz%3D1T4ACAW_sv___SE359%26ndsp%3D21%26tbs%3Disch:1
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PostSubject: Re: Puppy needs a name... ideas?   Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:01 am

rokka wrote:
Well maybe i am wrong. We had dogs like that in the family but we call them worster.

Okay, you win, I'm screwed on that one.

I have no idea what breed of dog that is, but it isn't a Griff.

The tail isn't docked, but of course a lot of moronic European countries no longer allow docking tails of puppies. I've seen two European Griffs with undocked tails - both always had problems with their tails because of frantically hammering their tails against branches and stuff while working bird scent in heavy cover. One finally ended up with her tail docked as an adult - no fun for the dog, but the ulcerating sores from injuries to her tail were worse. The old boys didn't dock puppies' tails as a matter of looking cool or to get approval from a kennel club. It was a pragmatic thing for the dog. Odd they allow the dewclaws to be removed in the pup's best interests but not docking their tails surgically at the same time.

But, that's the touchy-feel-y socialist state for you; I digress.

So it isn't a Griff, but I'm not sure what it is.

Might be a Cesky Fousek, a Czech breed.

Do you have an English translation for the breed name for me?

Here's your basic Griff - my beloved Jaeger:











Time to go hunting!
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rokka




PostSubject: Worster   Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:15 am

It is the same kind of dog. I am sure thumb Because we have a tradition of hunting Giron and a lot of people cross coutry ski with worsters they are wery popular here. Our dog was a wery strong personality Suspect He would eat my sandwich from the table even if he knew that it was forbidden droooool He would take a hit or 2 Very happy He payd the price every time thumb It was worth it for him. As a hunter he was unbeliveble. When my sister was walking with him on the mountains beside our house he could catch Grouse birds that hide in the bushes.
My sister that did not like him to kill birds was mad like a thunder cloud when she came home with a dead bird in one hand and Falco the dog in the other Very happy Basicly the dog did everything with style , he got beaten with style hunted with style and was a belowed member of our family.
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Jäger
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PostSubject: Re: Puppy needs a name... ideas?   Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:28 am

rokka wrote:
It is the same kind of dog. I am sure thumb Because we have a tradition of hunting Giron and a lot of people cross coutry ski with worsters they are wery popular here.

Nope, those are Wirehaired German Pointers (in English), according to one of the kennels on that page you gave. Black noses on some of them - which is never found on a Griffon. And they don't have the same head furnishings.

I really gotta get out of here.
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PostSubject: Re: Puppy needs a name... ideas?   Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:11 pm

I like Blue. Yup, that's my vote.
Nice bird by the way. If you decide to use one of the names suggsted by one of the inmates. Do they get a guided pheasent hunt? I could be on the next plane out. With my trusty Remington 870. ( I procrastinated too long to get me a Ruger Gold Label.)
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Dancamp




PostSubject: Re: Puppy needs a name... ideas?   Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:44 pm

Actually the griffon wire haired is the Korthals. The Drahthaar is the german wire haired pointer. Both are griffons but from different sources.

It's difficult to differenciate both races. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/GermanWirehrPtr1_wb.jpg

Here is a picture of a german

And a picture of a french http://www.alix-griffon-korthals.fr/public/base/Alix_des_Lys_du_Bois_en_pied.jpg

They look pretty much alike but the standard of the german is slightly taller than the french. The individuals are hard to differenciate especially if they are groomed the same way.

If you ever want to breed your dog try this place http://www.griffonfeufollet.com/. Eventhough their dogs are good at the showroom they are from working lineage.

I have a friend that own one and his dog is fabulous both as family dog and hunting partner. Easily trained to point, flush and retrieve.

It's name is Elvis. Not my friend, the dog. GAHHHH
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