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PostSubject: cuple questions!   cuple questions! EmptySun Dec 18, 2011 4:22 pm

Its sunday today so i cant find a dealer to do a test ride. Im just wondering how do these bikes compare in acceleration to the ttr-250? someone on another website said that these bikes are a womans bike thats slow like its dragging an anvil behind it... Everyone has there opinions but i highly dout these are that slow.

Also any one know what the horsepower is on these bikes? I thought i read like 30hp. But then i also read like 23-26 so im just confused

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PostSubject: Re: cuple questions!   cuple questions! EmptySun Dec 18, 2011 4:28 pm

Tell whoever says it's a woman's bike to go fuck themselves with a splintery hockey stick.

They are obviously douche bags of the highest order.

Horsepower is closer to 25 off the showroom floor. Adding 500 dollars or more gets you closer to 30, but most are never hitting 30.


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PostSubject: hey that bike looks familiar   cuple questions! EmptySun Dec 18, 2011 4:37 pm

are u in another forum site about the wr125s? THanks for the reply also is it true that these things only hold like a little more than a quart of oil? i iknow i could look this up but im here now so .. how much does the oil have to be changed for just normal street/freeway riding?
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PostSubject: Re: cuple questions!   cuple questions! EmptySun Dec 18, 2011 4:41 pm

No. Not on 125 forum.

The 250x/r holds about 1.6 quarts of oil.

Oil change interval is 3000 miles. Valve check interval is 26,000 miles.


The 250x/r is a modern fuel injected bike. The motor is basically 1/4 of a Yamaha R1 motor.

Do some research. Read around this forum. Read around a forum called Supermotojunkie too.

There are guys that stunt these, guys that roadrace them, and girls that do the same.


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PostSubject: Re: cuple questions!   cuple questions! EmptySun Dec 18, 2011 4:51 pm

and FYI....there are plenty of ladies here that I'd bet would/could outride the asshat that tried to define a 250r/x as a "girl's bike".


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PostSubject: so   cuple questions! EmptySun Dec 18, 2011 4:56 pm

is this thing gonna be faster than my old ttr-250 was?? WHy didnt yamaha just make this bike with a little more grunt and save us the hassle of upgrading?? Is it becuase emmisions?
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PostSubject: Re: cuple questions!   cuple questions! EmptySun Dec 18, 2011 4:57 pm

Show me the TTR doing this:

click me <-- clicky

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PostSubject: Re: cuple questions!   cuple questions! EmptySun Dec 18, 2011 7:01 pm

Ok...show me this coaksweat and I'll show the fucker how it's done!!! cuple questions! 911463 Fuck that shit. I've had more guys drool over my bike and want to try it out...98% of them are guys who are hard core sportbike riders, to boot. They all know me out this way, cause I'm one of the few girls who will ride the snot out there with this 'little 250' against those crotchers. Slow bike my ass! I'd like to see a street-legal 250 that can do OVER 100 mph. YES...OVER. Sorry but every time I hear someone calling this bike a woman's bike, and SLOW, it makes me want to rip off their pants to prove that there are no balls behind that asshole who said it. cuple questions! 724854

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PostSubject: Re: cuple questions!   cuple questions! EmptySun Dec 18, 2011 7:05 pm

SheWolf wrote:
Ok...show me this coaksweat and I'll show the fucker how it's done!!! cuple questions! 911463 Fuck that shit. I've had more guys drool over my bike and want to try it out...98% of them are guys who are hard core sportbike riders, to boot. They all know me out this way, cause I'm one of the few girls who will ride the snot out there with this 'little 250' against those crotchers. Slow bike my ass! I'd like to see a street-legal 250 that can do OVER 100 mph. YES...OVER. Sorry but every time I hear someone calling this bike a woman's bike, and SLOW, it makes me want to rip off their pants to prove that there are no balls behind that asshole who said it. cuple questions! 724854


cheers bow lol! deal

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PostSubject: Re: cuple questions!   cuple questions! EmptySun Dec 18, 2011 7:51 pm

SheWolf wrote:
Ok...show me this coaksweat and I'll show the fucker how it's done!!! cuple questions! 911463 Fuck that shit. I've had more guys drool over my bike and want to try it out...98% of them are guys who are hard core sportbike riders, to boot. They all know me out this way, cause I'm one of the few girls who will ride the snot out there with this 'little 250' against those crotchers. Slow bike my ass! I'd like to see a street-legal 250 that can do OVER 100 mph. YES...OVER. Sorry but every time I hear someone calling this bike a woman's bike, and SLOW, it makes me want to rip off their pants to prove that there are no balls behind that asshole who said it. cuple questions! 724854


You go Shewolf! No one makes fun of the WR! thumb
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PostSubject: Re: cuple questions!   cuple questions! EmptySun Dec 18, 2011 7:52 pm

You seriously didn't expect me to sit silent here after something like THAT, did you....?? cuple questions! 810411 cuple questions! 93746 cuple questions! 163123

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PostSubject: so   cuple questions! EmptySun Dec 18, 2011 8:32 pm

in other words then this bike has quite a bit more power the ttr-250 right??
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PostSubject: Re: cuple questions!   cuple questions! EmptySun Dec 18, 2011 8:39 pm

It's mostly an apples to bananas comparison I'd guess.

Old technology vs new
Trail bike vs. 100% street legal
Carburetor vs fuel injection


Does Yamaha even make a ttr250 anymore?


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PostSubject: Re: cuple questions!   cuple questions! EmptySun Dec 18, 2011 8:44 pm

dirtrider5001 wrote:
in other words then this bike has quite a bit more power the ttr-250 right??

Comparing 2006 TTR250 (last year made) to the current WRR/X, the TTR has about a 40lb. weight advantage at around 259 lbs wet. The engine is a 4 valve aircooled & carbed with 10.2 to 1 compression. HP is about 28 from all the articles I've read. The WR is about 300 lbs. the engine is a 4 valve water cooled EFI with 11.8 to 1 compression. HP is about 25 - 28 depending on what day of the week it was built. Very happy So, comparing the two looks about equal. Any other members feel free to correct me if I made any mistakes on the specs. If I goofed I'm apologizing in advance.

Sorry, I got the original info all F...... up! I made the correct changes to the info above now. Had info for a TTR230 that was labeled as a 250 previously. Didn't read through before I posted it.


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PostSubject: Re: cuple questions!   cuple questions! EmptySun Dec 18, 2011 9:57 pm

Compression ratio is actually 11.8. Nit-picking I know, but I had to look it up because I couldn't believe it was that high when aftermarket kits are all up in the 12's.
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PostSubject: Re: cuple questions!   cuple questions! EmptySun Dec 18, 2011 11:08 pm

I have a WR250R with all of the mods. I also have a XT225 which has the same engine as the TTR225. In my opinion the WR revs much quicker and feels like it has more torque. The both top out to about the same with the WR having the slight edge. The WR is much quicker off road.
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PostSubject: ok    cuple questions! EmptySun Dec 18, 2011 11:34 pm

but i gotta make a correction, the ttr250 actually has 4 valves, not 2. BUt i was wondering the same thing whether or not they even still made the ttr250.. No they do not, i checked the website. They do however have the ttr-230. About the weight it blows my mind that the wr250 would weigh more than the ttr-250. That almost seems like some sort of regressing. Although possibly with more tech you get a little more weight. Also since its designed street legal maybe they figure the extra weight helps with highspeed stability. Still It seems like this is one amazing bike. I will be testing one out tommorrow. Thanks for all the replys ill let you guys know when i make the purchase!
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PostSubject: Re: cuple questions!   cuple questions! EmptyMon Dec 19, 2011 6:34 am

Go look here: Yamaha ttr-230


uhhhhh.....piece of shit compared to 250x/r

1) air cooled
2) 1970's technology forks
3) 2 valves single overhead cam
4) drum brake on rear


It's not street legal dude. No lights, no turn signals, shitty forks and brakes, two valves, and air cooled. No wonder it's 50 pounds lighter.


I'm shocked Yamaha still makes these. I'm even more shocked people still buy them. I guess that shitty 1970's technology is why the price tag is so low for the ttr.

If you have not heard the wr250x has been discontinued. No 2012 model for USofA.


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PostSubject: Re: cuple questions!   cuple questions! EmptyMon Dec 19, 2011 8:32 am

Here's a pic of a 2006 TT-R250V, the last model year sold in the USA:

cuple questions! Tt-r250v

Here's the remains of the Yamaha USA website page telling about it:

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelspecs/34/0/specs.aspx

It's an air-cooled, 4-valve, dual overhead cammed, counterbalanced, electric start, 43mm forked, aluminum swingarmed, single shocked with remote reservoir, 6-speed, disc braked, knobby tired off-road bike.
It came to the USA in 1999, but was on sale in Europe for a few years before that as a dual-purpose (on/off-road) bike, and when it came to the USA, the street-legal parts were simply left off.

As far as performance goes, it's basically the Yamaha version of the Honda XR-250R with electric start instead of a kickstarter.
You get about 19 or 20 horsepower at the rear wheel at it's maximum.

The WR-250R gets about 25 horsepower at the rear wheel.
The WR-250R has to meet EPA and DOT regulations, so, yes, it is choked-up a bit.
Some basic mods - the same kind of mods done to other bikes that come choked-up due to EPA regulations - can have it running noticably better with better throttle response.
The WR-250R weighs about 25 pounds more than the TT-R250V because it has to carry a lot more parts due to regulations that make it street-legal and EPA compliant.

I can easily see why somebody would call the WR-250R a slow bike.
If they ride another bike with more CCs, or a bike that makes more horsepower and torque, the WR-250R will feel pretty slow, especially if it's straight off the showroom floor and not uncorked.
I know this first-hand because I was riding a 440cc 2009 Suzuki DR-Z400SM when I bought my 2008 Yamaha WR-250R, and that WR-250R was stock and had 113 miles on it.
In all honesty, the WR-250R felt as slow as molasses in comparison, and I believe it was because the 440cc DR-Z was the only thing I'd been riding for the last 9 months before that.
So, sure, the difference was dramatic upon the first ride.
By comparison, the WR-250R felt like it had no low-end power, had to be revved to the moon to get anywhere, and it simply felt stiffled and all corked-up for air and fuel.

I geared the bike down (because they come geared way too tall in my opinion), did the mods that are all over this message board, spent some time on the bike, and really came to appreciate it and like it.
Once I sold the DR-Z, the WR-250R became my street bike, and since I was riding only that on the street, it felt plenty fast with decent low-end and very good midrange and top end power.
For a 250cc bike that's street-legal, I believe it's as good as it gets as far as power goes.

The WR-250R is going to turn more RPM on the freeway at 75mph than a bigger bike will.
That's how it is.
For a 250cc bike, it actually turns relatively low RPM on the highway because it comes geared taller than is ideal for the amount of power the bike makes.
I believe that if you were to think the WR-250R was spinning too much on the freeway, you need a bigger bike that has that natural ability to be able to do 75mph at what feels and sounds like low RPM.


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PostSubject: Re: cuple questions!   cuple questions! EmptyMon Dec 19, 2011 2:36 pm

dirtrider5001 wrote:
Its sunday today so i cant find a dealer to do a test ride. Im just wondering how do these bikes compare in acceleration to the ttr-250? someone on another website said that these bikes are a womans bike thats slow like its dragging an anvil behind it... Everyone has there opinions but i highly dout these are that slow.

Also any one know what the horsepower is on these bikes? I thought i read like 30hp. But then i also read like 23-26 so im just confused

I get a TTR 250 8 years it was a good bike and i loved it really and i want a new one ,but last year i decided for the R² .We are on another word: more power, more flexibility better forke and suspensions, electronique dashboard etcc....i'm really happy 110% and people who say thats it's "girl bike" have to come with me oofroad and i believe that some will see only my back poser2
Be sure that R² it's THE choice thumb
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PostSubject: Re: cuple questions!   cuple questions! EmptyMon Dec 19, 2011 3:24 pm

dirtrider5001 wrote:
a womans bike thats slow like its dragging an anvil behind it...

Compared to what?

A Jeep is slow compared to a Porsche ... until you go off road.

A pick-up truck is slow compared to BMW sedan ... until you are towing something.

A mini-van is slow compared to Miata ... unless you have to load 5 kids in it.


What is the point of such an idiotic statement?
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PostSubject: Re: cuple questions!   cuple questions! EmptyMon Dec 19, 2011 8:35 pm

No more X's for 2012? That's a bummer! dddog I'm glad I got the X instead of the R. Might be worth more later. Very happy
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PostSubject: Re: cuple questions!   cuple questions! EmptyTue Dec 20, 2011 4:31 pm

She wolf is turning me on talking like that ! How come I can't find any girls like that, they could ride me all day poser2
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PostSubject: Re: cuple questions!   cuple questions! EmptyTue Dec 20, 2011 5:33 pm

R1 is to Ferrari
as
WR250 is to Jeep (a magical one with good handling lol)


If you compare a jeep to a Ferrari, its slow as heck. Typically though if you plan on drag racing, you dont buy a jeep lol.
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cuple questions! 810411 We are a dying breed, Monkey. Ed just seems to know how to prod me the right way to make me dance. cuple questions! 613970

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