Subject: Re: 5th gear wheelie - this guy can Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:41 pm
I'm the new guy on here and I'm diggin up old topics. I do NOT have passenger pegs and with my gearing this is more like a stock 5th gear.
12/43 sprockets, AIS and flapper removed, No Toil air filter kit, resistor in line on the air density (temp.) sensor for more fuel, pwrcore4 slip on.
Matty
Subject: Re: 5th gear wheelie - this guy can Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:11 am
Awh sea level...... Come try that out here a mile up in the air with a loss of 25-30% power. I can clutch it up in 3rd no problem. 4th gear takes some work and almost full throttle. We're supposed to get a lil heat wave of low 50s soon. I'll give 5th gear a shot.
BWA
Subject: Re: 5th gear wheelie - this guy can Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:20 am
Matty wrote:
Awh sea level...... Come try that out here a mile up in the air with a loss of 25-30% power. I can clutch it up in 3rd no problem. 4th gear takes some work and almost full throttle. We're supposed to get a lil heat wave of low 50s soon. I'll give 5th gear a shot.
With the increase in temp, you'll loose even more power! But I guess that can be your another excuse
velvetcows
Subject: Re: 5th gear wheelie - this guy can Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:20 am
yes sea level = more power it also = some muther focking boring roads and trails.
you know, if you can get 5th gear wheelies down.... or rather UP, go for 6!!
I think BWA is stalking me
BWA
Subject: Re: 5th gear wheelie - this guy can Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:02 am
velvetcows wrote:
yes sea level = more power it also = some muther focking boring roads and trails.
you know, if you can get 5th gear wheelies down.... or rather UP, go for 6!!
I think BWA is stalking me
I'm stalking new posts, and you just happen to be causing most of them
Matty
Subject: Re: 5th gear wheelie - this guy can Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:04 am
velvetcows wrote:
yes sea level = more power it also = some muther focking boring roads and trails.
you're on the wrong Coast.... Ya Colorado has some great roads out here. But I had shit load of fun on the twisty roads when i lived at sea level out on the West Coast.
As for loss of power... i rode in Los Angeles for about 8 years, moved up to Colorado, and my Litre bike felt like a 750. I really wish i had a chance to get the lil 250 to sea level and see how much more fun it actually is.
Guest Guest
Subject: Re: 5th gear wheelie - this guy can Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:58 pm
Matty wrote:
velvetcows wrote:
yes sea level = more power it also = some muther focking boring roads and trails.
you're on the wrong Coast.... Ya Colorado has some great roads out here. But I had shit load of fun on the twisty roads when i lived at sea level out on the West Coast.
As for loss of power... i rode in Los Angeles for about 8 years, moved up to Colorado, and my Litre bike felt like a 750. I really wish i had a chance to get the lil 250 to sea level and see how much more fun it actually is.
Your both idiot's! EFI is why! My wr250x doesn't skip a beat from below sea level to 9,870ft. Need proof? Death Valley to Mammoth Mountain... Or Laguna Beach to Big Bear or Mt Baldy.....
I've taken many different types of bikes (RC51, R6, R1, KTM sumo690, wr250x, rm125, cr450) from sea level to mountains and back....
California has the best of everything.
Delaware huh? Your definitely on the wrong coast. So, whatcha gonna do when the grid goes down?
Colorado huh? Um... well I love Vail...and a Rack of Lamb!
stumo
Subject: Re: 5th gear wheelie - this guy can Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:22 pm
Surfer-X wrote:
Matty wrote:
velvetcows wrote:
yes sea level = more power it also = some muther focking boring roads and trails.
you're on the wrong Coast.... Ya Colorado has some great roads out here. But I had shit load of fun on the twisty roads when i lived at sea level out on the West Coast.
As for loss of power... i rode in Los Angeles for about 8 years, moved up to Colorado, and my Litre bike felt like a 750. I really wish i had a chance to get the lil 250 to sea level and see how much more fun it actually is.
Your both idiot's! EFI is why! My wr250x doesn't skip a beat from below sea level to 9,870ft. Need proof? Death Valley to Mammoth Mountain... Or Laguna Beach to Big Bear or Mt Baldy.....
I've taken many different types of bikes (RC51, R6, R1, KTM sumo690, wr250x, rm125, cr450) from sea level to mountains and back....
It doesn't matter if it's a carb or EFI, you'll still lose power at altitude.......
It's just that the EFI will still be having good AFR's (or should have) whereas the carb will be out and will need re-jetting....
velvetcows
Subject: Re: 5th gear wheelie - this guy can Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:33 pm
Surfer-X wrote:
Your both idiot's! EFI is why! My wr250x doesn't skip a beat from below sea level to 9,870ft. Need proof? Death Valley to Mammoth Mountain... Or Laguna Beach to Big Bear or Mt Baldy.....
I've taken many different types of bikes (RC51, R6, R1, KTM sumo690, wr250x, rm125, cr450) from sea level to mountains and back....
Surely 25-30% is an accurate #
Guest Guest
Subject: Re: 5th gear wheelie - this guy can Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:04 pm
velvetcows wrote:
Surfer-X wrote:
Your both idiot's! EFI is why! My wr250x doesn't skip a beat from below sea level to 9,870ft. Need proof? Death Valley to Mammoth Mountain... Or Laguna Beach to Big Bear or Mt Baldy.....
I've taken many different types of bikes (RC51, R6, R1, KTM sumo690, wr250x, rm125, cr450) from sea level to mountains and back....
Surely 25-30% is an accurate #
30% power loss huh?....
Looks like Delaware's "Iron HIll" is your highest peak at a whopping 331ft.
As opposed to California's Mt. Whitney, at 14,452 ft.
Do you speak from local experience?
"Stumo"--- Maybe you lose power because your quite portly for a WR250R.... Rider weight is supposed to be around 180lbs max!
stumo
Subject: Re: 5th gear wheelie - this guy can Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:13 pm
"surfer-x", damn, i'm 181lb nekkid!
power loss....
hp loss = (elevation x 0.03 x hp @ sea level)/1000
Matty
Subject: Re: 5th gear wheelie - this guy can Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:08 pm
stumo wrote:
power loss....
hp loss = (elevation x 0.03 x hp @ sea level)/1000
velvetcows
Subject: Re: 5th gear wheelie - this guy can Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:11 pm
Wait wait wait, Delaware has a hill??
I still say 25-30% is a high ballpark figure. Then again, I don't know what your altitude actually is or what it goes up to. I was guessing your at 5-7k feet. Whats the hp # for the 250, is it 25, 27??? I don't remember. My last post was sarcastic, my bad, not tryin to flame anyone.
BTW, max weight for my X of operator, passenger, cargo and accessories is 185 kg (408 lb).
Back on topic. Matty, you try 5th gear or has the heat wave not hit?
Matty
Subject: Re: 5th gear wheelie - this guy can Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:22 am
velvetcows wrote:
Back on topic. Matty, you try 5th gear or has the heat wave not hit?
It's supposed to get into the 60s today, ya i'll be out on the bike. I'll give it a whirl.... Not doubting i can get the front wheel up. Just don't think i can get it anywhere near the balance point. Air is thin up here my brotha. I usually ride between 6K - 12K feet above Sea Level. We do have a fun ass road that goes above 14K. I guess it's the highest road in North America.
Guest Guest
Subject: Re: 5th gear wheelie - this guy can Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:24 pm
"Iron Hill," I had to look it up! Sounds like an old landfill.
(408lbs) So says Owners Manual. Try it fully loaded to 400lbs.
Rode with a passenger once (totaling 300lbs), and it sucks. Solo rider bike for sure...
Besides, you wanna tour- get a KTM or Honda 600R..... Our bike is for rippin' and tearin'