Removing tip-over switch.

I want to remove the tip-over switch. What needs to be done to the wiring after removal?

i tried a couple of times to take the lean angle sensor off.. but you can't just unplug it.. bike won't start. There will have to be some kind of circuit trickery to do it.. since the sensor is pretty small, & doesn't really trouble me, i figure it's easier to leave it be. I wanted a little more room under my seat for tire irons, patch kits, tools, etc.. but i get most of what i want under there.

Captain Midnight wrote:

I want to remove the tip-over switch.

Why?

I would hate to dump my X in a mud hole over 6 inches deep and have the engine keep running.

Precisely my question: why?

If you dump the bike in any kind of water, you want to kill the engine as soon as possible. The tip-over switch helps with that. I can't think of a situation where the bike is horizontal and you want to keep the engine running.

motokid wrote:

Why?

I would hate to dump my X in a mud hole over 6 inches deep and have the engine keep running.

Half the time my bike doesn't even shut off when I dump it. However, Like others said it does serve a purpose. I just hope it neer causes any unnecessary problems.

there's a delay before it cuts out.. if i dumped my bike in the water, i'd already have a plan to hit the kill switch asap before the lean angle sensor got a chance to do it's thing.

I heard of a guy who crashed his bike into a tree, knocked himself out, & woke up to his tire spinning on his leg bone.. that would be a time to have the auto kill function.

I was taking things off i thought might be a problem later.. i took off the kickstand switch, clutch switch, exup, ais, etc.. & tried to disable the lean angle sensor. It didn't go easily, so i left it in. It's not a big deal for me either way. I've never had a problem with it, & really have not even had it function. Most of the time when i drop my bike, it is because i've stalled it & killed it already.

My riding buddy Tom did have an issue with his, once. If you drop the bike & the lean angle sensor kills the motor, you must turn off the key to reset it before restarting. Tom had the kill switch turned off, but didn't turn off the key. He cranked & cranked on it one time, & almost drained the battery. Then he turned the key off to let it rest, & when he turned it back on, it started right up.

That thing really throws a damper on backflip attempts. No, but really It's not that big to really worry about taking off.

Best bet would be to open it up and remove what ever part initiates the sensor so that once that part is removed the sensor can be reinstalled without causing an issue.

I would highly recommend a kill strap so if you do wreck the bike will kill itself if you aren't within a certain distance from it.

I don't need the switch. I'll figure out how to deactivate it.

My guess is a mercury switch.

Not sure how it happened either, but I got sucked up between the wheel and the seat stay with the throttle stuck WFO (3rd gear on my CR250 - about 50 MPH) and while it wasn't down to my leg bone, I'da wished the engine would have shut off MUCH sooner. If I wasn't able to get to the kill button the brand new knobby would have continued to eat me alive like a rubber chain saw.

I would reconsider removal.

Here is some info on the lean angle sensor:

Lean Angle Sensor thread

Lean Angle Sensor thread on TT

Captain Midnight wrote:

I don't need the switch. I'll figure out how to deactivate it.

Ahhhh....so it's a personal vendetta?

If you just want to deactivate it without buying anything here is what you do.
Unplug it.
The inside pieces will slide out if coaxed.
Inside you will find a rubber gasket, black plastic piece that holds everything in place, a circuit board, and a half moon shaped magnet.
On the circuit board there are 3 prongs.
Holding the circuit board so that the prongs are pointing up, look at the one on the right.
Below the prong on the right there are two small black squares.
Use electrical tape to tape the magnet in place over the black squares.
Test and reassemble.
It will be a tight fit so make sure you have the prongs in the right place to slide back into the connector the first time.

X-Racer wrote:

My guess is a mercury switch.

Not sure how it happened either, but I got sucked up between the wheel and the seat stay with the throttle stuck WFO (3rd gear on my CR250 - about 50 MPH) and while it wasn't down to my leg bone, I'da wished the engine would have shut off MUCH sooner. If I wasn't able to get to the kill button the brand new knobby would have continued to eat me alive like a rubber chain saw.

I would reconsider removal.

After learning that hard lessson about riding with out a lean angle sensor, was it hard to install one? Do you now have them on all your bikes.

Dark wrote:

Best bet would be to open it up and remove what ever part initiates the sensor so that once that part is removed the sensor can be reinstalled without causing an issue.

I would highly recommend a kill strap so if you do wreck the bike will kill itself if you aren't within a certain distance from it.

Yes, I agree. Maybe a string to the kickstand would work. In a crash, I could pull the kickstand out, and the kickstand switch would kill the motor.

motokid wrote:

Captain Midnight wrote:

I don't need the switch. I'll figure out how to deactivate it.

Ahhhh....so it's a personal vendetta?

I have a module for a heads-up display, I want to mount in its place. Also, I've tipped the bike over when racing, and it takes too long to get the bike started again.

ramz wrote:

Here is some info on the lean angle sensor:

Lean Angle Sensor thread

Lean Angle Sensor thread on TT

That was very helpfull. Thank you.

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Dark wrote:

Best bet would be to open it up and remove what ever part initiates the sensor so that once that part is removed the sensor can be reinstalled without causing an issue.

I would highly recommend a kill strap so if you do wreck the bike will kill itself if you aren't within a certain distance from it.

Yes, I agree. Maybe a string to the kickstand

Ummmmmm........Never heard of that, please post pics
The main thing the lean angle sensor does is turn off the fuel pump, in the event of damage to the fuel delivery system in a crash it won't pump the entire contents of the fuel tank on you or the ground
Fire terrifies me

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Captain Midnight wrote:

Dark wrote:

Best bet would be to open it up and remove what ever part initiates the sensor so that once that part is removed the sensor can be reinstalled without causing an issue.

I would highly recommend a kill strap so if you do wreck the bike will kill itself if you aren't within a certain distance from it.

Yes, I agree. Maybe a string to the kickstand

Ummmmmm........Never heard of that, please post pics
The main thing the lean angle sensor does is turn off the fuel pump, in the event of damage to the fuel delivery system in a crash it won't pump the entire contents of the fuel tank on you or the ground
Fire terrifies me

methinks the captain was speaking tongue in cheek.

It's a 'feature'. Not everyone will be enamored with the feature.

rydnseek wrote:

methinks the captain was speaking tongue in cheek.

It's a 'feature'. Not everyone will be enamored with the feature.

Hahaha. I thought he was a moron for that. Guess i'm the moron for not getting the joke. lol.

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Dark wrote:

The main thing the lean angle sensor does is turn off the fuel pump, in the event of damage to the fuel delivery system in a crash it won't pump the entire contents of the fuel tank on you or the ground
Fire terrifies me

Just like all bikes made with carbs do, when they tip over and all the gas runs out of the floatbowl.