Really? A fence along Canadian border???

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I'm surprised the Canadians haven't already begun construction of a fence to keep americans out.. news of their global superiority will certainly cause a tide of illegals rushing into Canada to enjoy the #1 nation status!

rydnseek wrote:

I'm surprised the Canadians haven't already begun construction of a fence to keep americans out.. news of their global superiority will certainly cause a tide of illegals rushing into Canada to enjoy the #1 nation status!

I have no doubt there will be no complaints from the Canadian side of the border.

Hey...not all of us are hoarding pigs with our dope. Ed, pass me the rollies, wiil ya?

motokid wrote:

I have no doubt there will be no complaints from the Canadian side of the border.

Really? Based on what, exactly?

Not counting the populations of Nelson, Nakusp, Kaslo, Hills, Sandon, Riondel... how many am I missing, Shewolf.

Keep going Rick, you're on a roll. LOL, Rick Roll.

SheWolf wrote:

Keep going Rick, you're on a roll.

I'm not sure how far to the W - NW the Weird Kootenays grow op industry goes before petering out before reappearing in the Lower Mainland and Vancouver Island. We export about $8 billion dollars of BC Bud to the US each year, most of it going to California. And a lot of it being muled over those long unmonitored stretches: by foot, by quad, by 4x4, by helicopter...

Motokid might assume Canadians dislike Americans and America as much as he does, and therefore there wouldn't be a single Canadian complaint about a border fence to "keep Americans out". But all those grow op gangsters would be very unhappy indeed.

Seems to me, with Afghanistan winding down, what better way to keep the recce, surveillance, and interdiction skill sets sharp within the military than turning them loose along the borders and in the mountains to hunt down these drug thugs.

Its not the american people we fear, so much, as your government.
If we felt your people, in general, were in charge of your direction...there would be no issues at all.
Most canadians know american history better than their own. That's just the way it is...obviously to some.
Real threats are one thing...criminality is another.
As long as we argue what a threat is...a fence would be good for the economy, in some deep, defining way...wouldnt it?

mucker wrote:

Its not the american people we fear, so much, as your government.
If we felt your people, in general, were in charge of your direction...there would be no issues at all.

"We"? You're speaking for Canadians? Then let me speak for the "we" among Canadians who don't see it that way.

The real thing Canadians should fear about Americans, if anything, is their own abysmal ignorance and superiority complex concerning Americans. All you have to do is go to any CBC news story on their website and read some of the incredibly ignorant things posted there as "fact" about the US, posted by smart, knowledgeable Canadians.

I was doing some riding and flyfishing up the Elk Valley the last week, and staying at a friend's place. At one point I was listening to his 17 year old daughter and their friends talking about school while they were in the house. We're talking about an area with multiple US border crossings and cities about an hour's drive away, and a lot closer than any large Canadian city.

At one point they discussed how it is too bad that US kids don't get to learn about astronomy because, as their teacher Mr Whoever had told them, the religious fanatics won't allow astronomy to be taught in US schools. Then they had a giggle because one of their parents yelled at Mr Whoever for showing them an R-rated movie. And apparently (I didn't know this!) one of the primary aims of the Tea Party is to bring back segregated schools. And the reason they don't take road trips to the US is because, if you get hurt in the US, paramedics will check your pockets to ensure you have a credit card before they'll treat you and transport you to a hospital.

Now is it any wonder that Canadians grow up incredibly ignorant of their next door neighbors? What's scarier: that kids believe this crap in the age of Facebook (which these kids seem to live on)? Or that it is their TEACHERS telling them this stuff. A lot of Canadians had a big chuckle over Rick Mercer's "Talking to Americans". The reality is that he could have done "Talking to Canadians" with slightly similar - and in some cases the same - questions and found the same ignorant responses to post up from Canadians. The difference is, Mercer knew that slamming Americans and America will always sell well on CBC; slamming Canadians? Not so much.

A lot of Canadians should spend far more time paying attention to what their own government and government bureaucracy is doing, rather than handwringing and fingerpointing over what they think they know about their neighbor to the south.

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Most canadians know american history better than their own. That's just the way it is...obviously to some.

In my opinion, most Canadians are equally ignorant of all history. If you really think Canadians have any knowledge of American history, ask the next ten you meet what the three branches of US government are. What bodies make up Congress. Who The Founders were. What issue brought the US into WWI. Few Canadians have little interest in anybody's history, including their own. Which is why many wouldn't even know who Pierre Burton was without scrambling to bring up Google on their smartphone.

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Real threats are one thing...criminality is another.

Well, the harmless grow op industry has brought us massacres like the Surrey Five where innocent people were murdered to leave no witnesses, extensive gang activity and drug wars, pot-for-guns gun smuggling (this time, without ATF involvement), pot-for-coke, about $200 million a year in hydro theft that the rest of BC residents get to pick the tab up for, etc. Criminality IS a real threat, and any assumption that it is somebody else's problem just doesn't square with reality.

The electronic fence concept, primarily with UAVs, is nothing but a positive as far as I'm concerned for both countries - the illegal traffic runs both ways. Although unfortunately it is nothing more than a feasability study at this stage and unlikely to be seriously considered. The will and desire to carry through with it doesn't seem to be very evident on either side of the border at this time.