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mcdoudlehopper

mcdoudlehopper



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PostSubject: Zeta sprocket guard question   Zeta sprocket guard question EmptyFri Feb 26, 2016 11:10 pm

OK, so I ordered one. Was wondering if anyone is using one and what they did for case saver. I'm assuming the guard mounts on top of the OEM case saver. dunno Still waiting for it to get here.
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Evol

Evol



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PostSubject: Re: Zeta sprocket guard question   Zeta sprocket guard question EmptyFri Feb 26, 2016 11:43 pm

Most of us use the Sandman case saver and guard, but you can just order the case saver and use it with the Zeta.

https://sites.google.com/site/sandmanparts/home/freedom-case-saver-kit
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wwguy

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PostSubject: Re: Zeta sprocket guard question   Zeta sprocket guard question EmptySat Feb 27, 2016 4:11 pm

+1 for the Sandman case saver and sprocket cover.

There is no OEM case saver. Just a plastic sprocket cover that collects debris and prevents inspection and cleaning without removing it.
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waltermitty





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PostSubject: Re: Zeta sprocket guard question   Zeta sprocket guard question EmptySat Feb 27, 2016 4:19 pm

+2 on Sandman, very nice!
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mcdoudlehopper

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PostSubject: Re: Zeta sprocket guard question   Zeta sprocket guard question EmptySat Feb 27, 2016 8:34 pm

OK thanks I will have to use the OEM case saver half of the sprocket guard till I get a sandman. Like the looks of the Zeta plus already have a majority of there parts.
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Evol

Evol



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PostSubject: Re: Zeta sprocket guard question   Zeta sprocket guard question EmptySat Feb 27, 2016 8:54 pm

The Zeta does look good, but the Sandman is a better product since it holds on at 3 points.
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softjeans

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PostSubject: Re: Zeta sprocket guard question   Zeta sprocket guard question EmptySun Feb 28, 2016 7:29 am

Sandman looks good to me, might have to spend MORE money now
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Evol

Evol



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PostSubject: Re: Zeta sprocket guard question   Zeta sprocket guard question EmptySun Feb 28, 2016 7:47 am

I'm not trying to "sell the product" as I don't have any affiliation with Sandman other than having purchased it myself. I'm just trying to help a fellow rider choose a solid product.

Here's mine:

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PostSubject: Re: Zeta sprocket guard question   Zeta sprocket guard question EmptySun Feb 28, 2016 4:07 pm

The sandmand casesaver saved my engine when i lost my chain at 90km/h...
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Carlos Thomas

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PostSubject: Re: Zeta sprocket guard question   Zeta sprocket guard question EmptySat Mar 05, 2016 7:11 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Zeta sprocket guard question   Zeta sprocket guard question EmptySat Mar 05, 2016 10:35 pm

Got mine put on today! wow your engine is clean. realized how dirty mine was

Zeta sprocket guard question Zeta10
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Carlos Thomas

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PostSubject: Re: Zeta sprocket guard question   Zeta sprocket guard question EmptySat Mar 05, 2016 10:42 pm

My bike only has 604 miles on it, so it still looks clean.

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SwissDude

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PostSubject: Re: Zeta sprocket guard question   Zeta sprocket guard question EmptyTue Mar 08, 2016 3:17 pm

The Zeta just rocks wings

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wwguy

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PostSubject: Re: Zeta sprocket guard question   Zeta sprocket guard question EmptyTue Mar 08, 2016 3:45 pm

The Zeta sprocket covers are certainly sexy, but they don't appear to have a case saver behind them.  IMHO the case saver is the most important part because it protects the case in event of chain failure.  A sprocket guard/cover alone, like the Zeta, doesn't do that.

Here's the Sandman case saver only (without the sprocket cover.)  Not sure if this will fit behind a Zeta sprocket cover.

Zeta sprocket guard question Casesaver1

I do know that the Sandman case saver will fit behind the OEM sprocket cover:

Zeta sprocket guard question OEM2
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SwissDude

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PostSubject: Re: Zeta sprocket guard question   Zeta sprocket guard question EmptyTue Mar 08, 2016 3:59 pm

wwguy wrote:
The Zeta sprocket covers are certainly sexy, but they don't appear to have a case saver behind them.  IMHO the case saver is the most important part because it protects the case in event of chain failure.  A sprocket guard/cover alone, like the Zeta, doesn't do that.

fully agreed, at least in theory.

*I* just never had such a chain failure in hmm.......35y of riding motorbikes? Don't know what the statistics say on that subject, but I assume getting hit by a low flying eagle is in a similar price class poser2
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wwguy

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PostSubject: Re: Zeta sprocket guard question   Zeta sprocket guard question EmptyTue Mar 08, 2016 4:58 pm

SwissDude wrote:

*I* just never had such a chain failure in hmm.......35y of riding motorbikes? Don't know what the statistics say on that subject, but I assume getting hit by a low flying eagle is in a similar price class poser2

Good for you. Not everyone is so lucky. I've never heard of anyone getting hit by an eagle while riding, but I've heard of plenty of chain failures and have seen a few firsthand. Here are some reports I've read specific to our bikes:

https://wr250rforum.forumotion.com/t11772-sandman-casesaver-a-life-saver
http://advrider.com/index.php?threads%2F1200-mile-trip-on-a-wr250r-gone-wrong.982515%2F
http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/wr250r-split-case.997633/

I'm also aware of two more WRR riders who reported similar stories recently when this subject came a couple weeks ago over on the Facebook WRR page.

I don't really care if you have one or not. I do disagree with your opinion that it isn't needed because it hasn't happened to you yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Zeta sprocket guard question   Zeta sprocket guard question EmptyTue Mar 08, 2016 11:18 pm

Look harder, It is mounted over the OEM plastic case saver. thumb
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SwissDude

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PostSubject: Re: Zeta sprocket guard question   Zeta sprocket guard question EmptyWed Mar 09, 2016 1:50 am

wwguy wrote:

Good for you.  Not everyone is so lucky.  I've never heard of anyone getting hit by an eagle while riding, but I've heard of plenty of chain failures and have seen a few firsthand. Here are some reports I've read specific to our bikes:
I don't really care if you have one or not.  I do disagree with your opinion that it isn't needed because it hasn't happened to you yet.

you don't get a joke, even if it's marked with a ROFL-smiley? Well...

Given the number of WRRs out there, the bike certainly isn't known for suffering from chain failures.
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PostSubject: Re: Zeta sprocket guard question   Zeta sprocket guard question EmptyWed Mar 09, 2016 3:04 am

Sandman casesaver saved my bike aswell.

I tend to try and fit some sort of casesaver on all my bikes, all it takes is a rock in a wrong place..
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wwguy

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PostSubject: Re: Zeta sprocket guard question   Zeta sprocket guard question EmptyWed Mar 09, 2016 10:45 am

mcdoudlehopper wrote:
Look harder, It is mounted over the OEM plastic case saver. thumb

I get what you're trying to say but the OEM plastic/rubber cover isn't much of a "case saver".  Yamaha calls the plastic part a "chain case cover" and the rubber part a "guide".

SwissDude wrote:
wwguy wrote:

Good for you.  Not everyone is so lucky.  I've never heard of anyone getting hit by an eagle while riding, but I've heard of plenty of chain failures and have seen a few firsthand. Here are some reports I've read specific to our bikes:
I don't really care if you have one or not.  I do disagree with your opinion that it isn't needed because it hasn't happened to you yet.

you don't get a joke, even if it's marked with a ROFL-smiley? Well...

Given the number of WRRs out there, the bike certainly isn't known for suffering from chain failures.

I love jokes!  If you made one I missed it.  (LOL, ROFL, LMAO, and all that other stuff.)

It looked to me like you were defending the Zeta guard's lack of case saver by saying one isn't needed.  It still looks that way to me.    horse
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SwissDude

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PostSubject: Re: Zeta sprocket guard question   Zeta sprocket guard question EmptyWed Mar 09, 2016 10:59 am

wwguy wrote:

I love jokes!  If you made one I missed it.  (LOL, ROFL, LMAO, and all that other stuff.)

well, maybe you're getting hit by eagles quite frequently in your part of the world. No idea.

wwguy wrote:

It looked to me like you were defending the Zeta guard's lack of case saver by saying one isn't needed.  It still looks that way to me.    horse

No, I actually agreed to what you wrote and added that *I* happily take the risk bcs. I never had that problem, don't expect it to happen anytime soon and even if so - bad luck, repair.
If I would be that chicken-hearted, I wouldn't t ride any motorbike at all. So many bad things can happen, including severe wounds from getting hit by an eagle in Idaho...
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PostSubject: Re: Zeta sprocket guard question   Zeta sprocket guard question EmptyWed Mar 09, 2016 11:22 am

SwissDude wrote:
So many bad things can happen, including severe wounds from getting hit by an eagle in Idaho...

Thanks for keeping the conversation light and funny. Sorry if I came across with an attitude. I think I need to get out and ride more and post on internet forums less. I can't wait for the snow to melt from the high country.
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PostSubject: Re: Zeta sprocket guard question   Zeta sprocket guard question EmptyWed Mar 09, 2016 3:36 pm

No worries pal, we're all waiting for that f-word Winter to finally retreat.

Last Monday I took my bike for a short ride. It was way too cold for that, though.
My WRR snickered all the time and said "soo, is my rider eventually getting old....I am no wheelchair" and stuff like that.
Cheeky little rascals, those WRRs Very happy
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PostSubject: Re: Zeta sprocket guard question   Zeta sprocket guard question EmptyWed Mar 09, 2016 7:43 pm

WWguy wrote:
I get what you're trying to say but the OEM plastic/rubber cover isn't much of a "case saver". Yamaha calls the plastic part a "chain case cover" and the rubber part a "guide".


Yes I know, this is just a temporary measure till I get a sandman. freaky
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Sandman for me...gotta support the little guy:)
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