First Hick-up in Starting

I had my first hick-up in starting this morning. With 650 miles on the clock the bike stalled as I was starting off and it took several thumbs of the button to get going. I figure it was cold and may have flooded, but it was still an odd occurance as it has always fired up . After this, I rode it 25 miles to work at all speeds from 68+ to 5 mph with no problems and it ran great.

Couple things...

Our bikes cannot be flooded or be too cold. Those are carbed bike problems, not FI.

More than likely you tried starting the bike before the fuel pump was able to prime the system, thats all. I have tried starting it quickly after stalling and it always takes much longer than just letting the fuel pump prime.

Now get back out and ride!

3KGT_Maddness wrote:

Couple things...

Our bikes cannot be flooded or be too cold. Those are carbed bike problems, not FI.

More than likely you tried starting the bike before the fuel pump was able to prime the system, thats all. I have tried starting it quickly after stalling and it always takes much longer than just letting the fuel pump prime.

Now get back out and ride!

Hmm. I have stalled when it was warm and never had a problem as it alway fired up quick. This morning I went around our block to get to the main road, and this is where it stalled, so I'm sure the engine was not up to prime temperature.

When it stalls, the fuel pump should still be primed should it not as its not like turning the key on and off.

I don't think it was the cold either. I can be riding in the hills all day, stall it and sometimes it takes a few jabs at the button to start. Just one of those things, no biggy. The bike doesn't particularly like to be stalled...but she still starts.

Thanks. I hope it was just one of those things, and nothing to worry about, but it did startle my confidence.
In the early 80's as a kid I had a 1971 Yamaha DT 250 2-stroke Dual Sport and it was indestructable and always started period, not to mention simple to wrench-on. I just hope this bike is proves to be as reliable.

Totally know what you mean by the confidence thing.

I'll be 40miles out in the middle of nowhere on my own and something like that happens. But honestly, I beat the crap out of my bike and she hasn't let me down yet. There will always be issues here and there with a few people, but on the whole I think it really is a great bike and very reliably.

I've had difficulty restarting after a stall when the engine is hot too. I always chalk it up to the computer strategy possibly not taking into account the engine coolant temp when you hit the starter. It's not been a problem so far, but I haven't stalled it out on anything steep yet either.

I figured out yesterday after a couple of stalls...it's how you restart it, meaning it is a fuel thing (10points to 3kgt).
Jab at the start button enough and it will pressurize the fuel lines. OR just turn off the key and back on so the fuel pump is primed and it will start right away every time.

*It's too much of a pain to turn the key off then on if it's just a simple stall so I just hit the starter.

inspector wrote:

I figured out yesterday after a couple of stalls...it's how you restart it, meaning it is a fuel thing (10points to 3kgt).
Jab at the start button enough and it will pressurize the fuel lines. OR just turn off the key and back on so the fuel pump is primed and it will start right away every time.

*It's too much of a pain to turn the key off then on if it's just a simple stall so I just hit the starter.

+1
My clutch control is so amazing that I hardly ever stall BUT: when it has happened on a couple of occasions, I have found that 'resetting' everything by turning the key off & then going through the whole startup procedure of whirring pump & dash lights, she starts up fine. No difference if its hot or cold....
I had exactly the same experience as OP both when pulling out of my driveway when below freezing, & also when pulling out of petrol station when engine was very hot & air temp of 28 C (80 F ???)
I believe the reset procedure is probably the best for the bike, as it strains the starter motor less - although probably very marginal.

You guys are probably right on the key-reset of the fuel pump. I seem to stall off from stop lights while day dreaming. The idea of waiting longer to fire up because I ma turning off/on the key and waiting for the pump = more stop light embarrasment.

I had that a bit with the 13t up there but going to the 12 seemed to eliminate that. I remember staling the one time with the 13t and went to hit the starter and hit the horn instead. Guy on the Harley in front of me asked if I needed a push.

Yes, I have done the horn thing as well when attempting to hit the blinkers. . Now when I do this I simply look around with a "yea what" look.