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JS5Owner




PostSubject: Intent to Recall - overheating stator   Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:07 pm

Have you guys heard about this "Intent to recall" re: stator overheating?
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Fiftygrit

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PostSubject: Re: Intent to Recall - overheating stator   Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:15 pm

First I have heard of this, but will ask my dealer if he has, cheer`s
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Evol

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PostSubject: Re: Intent to Recall - overheating stator   Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:14 pm

And how exactly are "non-registered owners" supposed to get the recall done?  Suspect


Edit: Could you please post the full link URL ? Thanks !!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Intent to Recall - overheating stator   Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:00 pm

My Dealer called me and informed me that there will be a recall in the US for all WRR and WRX due to the stator overheating and melting the insulation.

He told me sit tight and as soon as he gets the kits he will give me a call.

If you have a WRR and are not the original owner I would just contact your local Yamaha dealer directly.
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PostSubject: Re: Intent to Recall - overheating stator   Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:37 pm

Evol wrote:
And how exactly are "non-registered owners" supposed to get the recall done?  Suspect


Edit: Could you please post the full link URL ? Thanks !!!!

It's still only just coming to light. First we heard of it was from a member on the facebook group in Japan that got a letter. Then this came to light the next day.
I'm from Australia and we are yet to hear anything but hopefully with time it will roll out. At this stage it seems to to be a letter of intent for the USA.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/WR250XnR/
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speersie

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PostSubject: Re: Intent to Recall - overheating stator   Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:13 pm

Local Yamaha dealer staff confirmed the recall and letters from Yamaha should be issued in Australia shortly.
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Evol

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PostSubject: Re: Intent to Recall - overheating stator   Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:47 pm

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timzim




PostSubject: Re: Intent to Recall - overheating stator   Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:24 pm

My dealer in Wisconsin rapids had no info for me this morn
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PostSubject: Re: Intent to Recall - overheating stator   Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:40 pm

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Fiftygrit

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PostSubject: Re: Intent to Recall - overheating stator   Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:48 pm

Maybe in Canada its too damn cold, only 1850 units between 2008 and 2010 effected, or maybe that`s all they sold hahaha,
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PostSubject: Re: Intent to Recall - overheating stator   Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:38 pm

alexWR wrote:
Australian recall info:

http://www.recalls.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/1073340

Thanks for the info! I've rung up about my 2012, and sure enough, it's on the recall list. I knew it was, because I've had a stator fail already!

Cheers
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Evol

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PostSubject: Re: Intent to Recall - overheating stator   Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:20 am

I stopped by my local dealership to inquire about the recall.
They hadn't heard about it yet, but as soon as he entered my VIN number, he saw that the recall was there and my bike is affected.
Part has been ordered...
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WRXZ

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PostSubject: Re: Intent to Recall - overheating stator   Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:44 pm

Called my dealer in Greeneville NC, Ron Ayers motorsports, they had not heard of the recall yet. Guess I'm gonna have to call Yamaha myself.
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IslandADV




PostSubject: Re: Intent to Recall - overheating stator   Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:17 pm

I just received a call from my dealer to order the parts and set a time to replace it.
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wankle




PostSubject: got mine today   Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:47 pm

in the mail



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Fiftygrit

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PostSubject: Re: Intent to Recall - overheating stator   Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:51 am

My serial number was checked and mine was okay 2014, we dont get hot enough up here, so we should be okay, at the dealers he said it was from slow riding in extreme heat that caused the problem, we will see what happens, if there is a recall it is left open.
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66T

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PostSubject: Re: Intent to Recall - overheating stator   Wed Jul 08, 2015 2:43 am

Fiftygrit wrote:
My serial number was checked and mine was okay 2014, we dont get hot enough up here, so we should be okay, at the dealers he said it was from slow riding in extreme heat that caused the problem, we will see what happens, if there is a recall it is left open.

I think he's spot on with that. I hope the recall part's an end to the problem!
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Jens Eskildsen




PostSubject: Re: Intent to Recall - overheating stator   Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:36 pm

The recall finally made it to Denmark aswell. Parts ordered for my bike.
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Fiftygrit

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PostSubject: Re: Intent to Recall - overheating stator   Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:08 pm

From what the guys said at the shop is that its not a faulty stator, it has to do with more oil circulation on one side of the stator more than the other side, if you could cool the oil some how they would last for a long time, they had the same problem with some of there quad motors. I guess if a guy was real good with fabrication you could rig up an oil cooler through the oil filter port, cheer`s
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66T

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PostSubject: Re: Intent to Recall - overheating stator   Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:41 am

Hard to know who's right and who's wrong with this issue. We have a really switched-on motorbike electrician here, who says that it's all to do with the made-in-China-too-cheaply stator. Apparently the insulation can't stand the heat, with obvious results.

I'd guess the new ones are better-made to cope with off-road stress. Or even summer city traffic, which puts a heap of thermal load on bike electronics.
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PostSubject: Re: Intent to Recall - overheating stator   Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:52 am

66T wrote:
Hard to know who's right and who's wrong with this issue. We have a really switched-on motorbike electrician here, who says that it's all to do with the made-in-China-too-cheaply stator. Apparently the insulation can't stand the heat, with obvious results.

I'd guess the new ones are better-made to cope with off-road stress. Or even summer city traffic, which puts a heap of thermal load on bike electronics.

This brought back an interesting memory.

In a prior job I was working for one of the major automotive companies and there was big push to reduce costs. We started moving product from one supplier to another to save a few $$. Problem was that engineering specifications very seldom contain the details to end up with the same performance when switching from one supplier to another.

In one case it called out the material that the product was suppose to be made from and the guys in Procurement pass that along to new supplier and they confirmed the material was the same so the change went ahead. I am not exactly sure what happened next but it appeared that in order to speed things up they deferred testing until after the part was being produced by the new supplier.

Well long story short.. it failed testing. So they decided it was a one off failure and tested again. BTW this is my favorite strategy when it would come to approving these changes since the conversation would go like this:

"So it failed testing the first tiime?"

"Yes"

"What changes were made for the second test"

Smiling proudly "Nothing was changed"

"So you want me to approve this change for production that has a 50% failure rate?"

Silence.

In this particular case the part failed again... and again. Went back as a sanity check and checked the original suppliers part and it passed. It appears that not all of the materials that satisfied the original engineering specification are created equal.

So now you have a substandard part in production and on a bunch of vehicles and are scrambling to get everything back to the original supplier who has informed you that they will need to increase the price since they needed to add extra capacity since they have already converted over the plant to another product.

This is one of the many reasons you end up with recalls.
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Fiftygrit

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PostSubject: Re: Intent to Recall - overheating stator   Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:11 pm

Well after all that crap I was saying, guess what, I got a recall notice in the mail today hahaha so much for the ser # check, thank christ the dealer is about 1/2 a block from my house, will check and see what they have to say now, cheer`s
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PostSubject: Re: Intent to Recall - overheating stator   Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:42 pm

Is this a pretty easy swap, and is there any reason the dealer has to install to qualify? I am a decent backyard mechanic so assume I can handle this, plus I dont want anyone elses grubby hands on my bike.
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66T

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PostSubject: Re: Intent to Recall - overheating stator   Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:32 pm

It depends upon the dealer, I guess. I fitted mine on the understanding that there was to be no claim on Yamaha or the dealer if anything went wrong. Fair enough, I figured.

Very interested to read rsteiger's recall scenario. I can visualise that all too easily!
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sprocket




PostSubject: Re: Intent to Recall - overheating stator   Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:04 pm

I received a text from Yamaha Australia about the recall so have contacted my local dealer to have the stator replaced.
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