Shinko 705 s on an X

Quick note on Rodney's steering imput issue.

The front tire is much taller than the factory front tire. I slid my forks up into the triple trees approx. 1inch and although it still feels a little heavier than the factory front is was a dramatic improvement.

superbee24 wrote:

Quick note on Rodney's steering imput issue.

The front tire is much taller than the factory front tire. I slid my forks up into the triple trees approx. 1inch and although it still feels a little heavier than the factory front is was a dramatic improvement.

i raised my forks 10mm, and it was better, but i may be asking too much of the 705 to transition quickly like the pilot powers that were on the bike before. seems like under 30, it transitins quickly, but over 30, it seems that gyroscopic effect comes into play and it is hard to get the wheel to change direction.

Superbee,

Thank you very much for the excellent detailed input and for the pictures, too!

Those tires are really wearing well.

Regards,

BigFeet

rodney wrote:

superbee24 wrote:

Quick note on Rodney's steering imput issue.

The front tire is much taller than the factory front tire. I slid my forks up into the triple trees approx. 1inch and although it still feels a little heavier than the factory front is was a dramatic improvement.

i raised my forks 10mm, and it was better, but i may be asking too much of the 705 to transition quickly like the pilot powers that were on the bike before. seems like under 30, it transitins quickly, but over 30, it seems that gyroscopic effect comes into play and it is hard to get the wheel to change direction.

Rodney, I was just going off of the pic. that you posted. (No offense intended.) My forks are set deeper into the triple trees. But you are completely correct, it is harder to get a larger/heavier tire to change directions once it gets some speed going.

Has anybody with these tires experienced bad headshake in the dirt/gravel? I can't go over 80 km/h or the bike tries to spit me off. They're absolutely horrible for it. On-road they're fine, and I'm otherwise happy with them.

R_Lefebvre wrote:

Has anybody with these tires experienced bad headshake in the dirt/gravel? I can't go over 80 km/h or the bike tries to spit me off. They're absolutely horrible for it. On-road they're fine, and I'm otherwise happy with them.

No issues with mine, of course, mine doesn't do that silly Km/h stuff = maybe that's what's causing it

I run like 95/5 street/off, and when im on the street i like to push those corners! do you think these will hold well on the handleing or should I just stick with SM tires? All my Off Road has to be done "under the radar" and I do want to start playing around with stairs, but I have been using the stocks and they seem ok. New to this so sorry if the question is a stupid one.

Mikechicago wrote:

I run like 95/5 street/off, and when im on the street i like to push those corners! do you think these will hold well on the handleing or should I just stick with SM tires? All my Off Road has to be done "under the radar" and I do want to start playing around with stairs, but I have been using the stocks and they seem ok. New to this so sorry if the question is a stupid one.

I would stick with SM tires for your purpose or go with some Distanzias from Avon. These are great all around tires but since they seem to last forever you do sacrifice some "performance" if you like riding SM style.

ran the shinkos in a snowstorm today. braking traction on hills was non existant. all in all, not something i would want to do again, but it was fun anyway.

At first I thought u meant breaking traction, then I realized u meant braking traction. How did the tires do as far as driving forward? I been considering a 705 on the front and a 244 on the rear for a little more wet grass uphill traction while still keeping the steering input light on the front. Any thoughts anyone? thanks

dustcloud wrote:

How did the tires do as far as driving forward? I been considering a 705 on the front and a 244 on the rear for a little more wet grass uphill traction while still keeping the steering input light on the front. Any thoughts anyone? thanks

i think they are excellent tires. they suck in the mud/snow/ice. aside from that, i will go anywhere with them. i have a few hillclimb videos on youtube, but i cannot post up the links now (at work). you can search them under "b18c5rodney's channel"

subscribed. thanx.

dustcloud,

I went to Shinko 244's on both ends due to good input from Scotty (rydnseek).

I'm really liking the tires a lot. I find the steering input to be astonishingly light and the handling is very racy on pavement. I'd read it, but that still surprised me.

One caveat: My 244's took quite a bit of lead to balance. Once balanced, they ride very smooth on the interstates and highways. They're very inexpensive tires that reportedly last a long time, so I don't mind having to balance them. Due to lies from the shop about the tires NOT needing balanced (major BS) I bought my own balancer, so next time it's free anyway.

The 705 might look less odd on the front, though, so there is that.

And, I may go with the 705's next time out if I'm riding more street than dirt then.

Larry

*EDIT* sold shinkos to eflyersteve, thanks buddy!

rodney wrote:

anyone want a set of used shinko 705's? i picked up a set of 21/18 for dirt duty, so i am going back to pilots for my 17's.

I am interested. What size did you end up with on the rear? I'm still stock wheels on my x. How much tread left and how much were you wanting?

BigFeet wrote:

I went to Shinko 244's on both ends due to good input from Scotty (rydnseek).

I'm really liking the tires a lot. I find the steering input to be astonishingly light and the handling is very racy on pavement. I'd read it, but that still surprised me.

What sizes are you running Larry?

How are they on wet pavement?

Just so its not such a large looking front tire, would 120/80-17 front work okay instead of 90 series?

Are these taller than the Avons? Do they make the bike taller?

I just order a set today and I was wondering what kind of riding issues will i experience with the front raised a bit higher due to the 90 series tire? would it act more squirmy at high speeds etc...? I already raised the front forks 17mm and don't want to lower the front even more.

WR250X wrote:

Just so its not such a large looking front tire, would 120/80-17 front work okay instead of 90 series?

They don't make 120/80-17. I know because I looked all over the place for that size. They label the 120/90-17 as a rear tire. lol

mrgreyman wrote:

Are these taller than the Avons? Do they make the bike taller?

These tires made my bike taller. It almost raised the bike up to stock level when I already lowered the rear (lowest stock adjustment. no yamalink) and raised the front forks 17mm.

R_Lefebvre wrote:

Has anybody with these tires experienced bad headshake in the dirt/gravel? I can't go over 80 km/h or the bike tries to spit me off. They're absolutely horrible for it. On-road they're fine, and I'm otherwise happy with them.

i just got mine on today and im havin the same prob. im hoping lowering the front fork some will help. if not i dont think they'll be on my bike long.

I haven't been that fast in loose dirt on the trails but on dirt roads I've had it up to 60 mph and it felt fine. If anything the back end was the twitchy one.

I'm running stock fork height with a 1" lowering link out back and I don't get any bad headshake. Well at least no more than the factory tires.

slid my forks up 2cm. The head shake is worse, i cant go over 60 on the street before its start wobblin. prob not goin ride until i can afford some bt003s.

It's not the tires. Must be something else. I ride mine up to 70+ before I get a little shake. I've been very happy with the on-road performance of these tires.