After my $0.50/CC deal from Rick Mayer debacle (sending the seat to them twice and them telling me they can't make the seat "custom" - I guess they had stock foam the slapped on instead of shaping the foam) I've ordered the seat concepts seat. If you tell them in the notes section of your paypal order that you are an ADVrider member [which I am] they will ship it to you for free. I'll post up what I think when it arrives.