Hit something going across that stopped me and went for a swim.
Got a ride from a buddy's trailer home, changed the oil three times (and the filter once) and its finally coming out clear again. Gonna change it again after work tuesday or wednesday and again with a new filter next week. The air box was completely full of water and held water until I pulled the screw and opened the door, good to know its water tight.
X-Racer
Subject: Re: How to drown your WR250R Sun May 02, 2010 9:52 pm
I hate when that happens.
SheWolf Alpha Rider
Subject: Re: How to drown your WR250R Sun May 02, 2010 11:52 pm
Gotta love it when your bike talks back to you by spitting in your face, hey Dave?
_________________ A wolf's voice echoed down the mountain 'Share the bounty of the hunt with your brothers and sisters, and forever be strong and free.'
X-Racer
Subject: Re: How to drown your WR250R Mon May 03, 2010 1:07 am
Maybe better then sitting on your face. * thinking * Then again....
SheWolf Alpha Rider
Subject: Re: How to drown your WR250R Mon May 03, 2010 8:28 am
Ohh ow....muffler burn, anyone?
_________________ A wolf's voice echoed down the mountain 'Share the bounty of the hunt with your brothers and sisters, and forever be strong and free.'
Midnite171
Subject: Re: How to drown your WR250R Mon May 03, 2010 8:56 am
So, what was the end result? Did it start or were you done for the day and have to flush your motor out a few times?
skierd
Subject: Re: How to drown your WR250R Mon May 03, 2010 1:20 pm
Lynn - yeah, the girl's got some sass.
Once I put everything back together and thoroughly drained the water from the top end, she did in fact turn over and run. When I first checked the oil it was clear, but after letting it run for ~30 seconds I stopped it to check again and the oil was a complete milkshake so my day was done. The trailer that picked me up picked up the other two drowned bikes and got me back to camp, and the next day I got a ride home.
Changed the oil (finally using up the 3 half bottles of various oils I had laying around) and filter when I first got home, let her idle for a few minutes, changed it again, idled until the motor started to get warm, and changed it again. Let her warm up and took her for a short ride through the neighborhood, oil looks fine and she runs great so I'm guessing there will be no lasting damage. I'll do another oil change at the end of this week to use up the last of the oil I bought to flush it (15w40 Rotella) and change back to amsoil with a new filter a couple weeks after that.
Midnite171
Subject: Re: How to drown your WR250R Mon May 03, 2010 1:28 pm
I guess the question that needs to be asked is;
Was it really that important to cross that river?
(There's a joke in there somewhere... )
"Why did the dirt biker cross the river?"
(any answers?)
skierd
Subject: Re: How to drown your WR250R Mon May 03, 2010 4:23 pm
That crossing was necessary because of the two previous crossings. No way to get back to camp without going across!
Here's the first two: 1
2
And the one that ate me:
3
Skeandhu
Subject: Re: How to drown your WR250R Mon May 03, 2010 4:31 pm
So here's a question for us Newbs...
If you drown your bike like that, and somehow get it running again, is it safe to ride out? For what distance? Any chance of more permanent damage?
motokid Moderator
Subject: Re: How to drown your WR250R Mon May 03, 2010 5:01 pm
Skierd, maybe I missed it...but didn't you have your wr stolen off 685 during a snowstorm???
Did you get the bike back, or buy a new one? Or am I thinking of someone else?
By the way....love the balls it takes to cross streams like that.
Subject: Re: How to drown your WR250R Mon May 03, 2010 9:27 pm
Yes my old bike was stolen and not recovered, this is a new one I bought in January.
Safe to ride out? Depends how much water and other crap got in. I was lucky, it was just water and not a lot of mud and junk. I also hit the kill switch before I got dunked, saving the motor from hydrolocking. One of the other guys was not and sucked a bunch of sand into his motor, so he gets to do a rebuild.
There are three problems with drowning a bike: 1) the most obvious, hydrolocking the motor. Bike's running as it goes down, or you get lazy and don't ensure that the cylinder is clear of water before cranking it over. Water doesn't compress, so at best you'll bend a rod... rebuild time. Keep an eye on the kill switch when crossing deep water and be ready to pull the spark plug and crank her over a bunch to get the water out once you get back to sure and this shouldn't be an issue. Also tilt the bike up on end to get the water out of the exhaust. Time for a rebuild.
2) mud/sand/other grit ingestion. Imagine taking a sand blaster to the motor's internals, also not good. Not much you can do but hope the air filter does its job and nothing makes it in through another orifice. Pull the filter after draining the water and check to see that the intake tract is still clean (if wet), if its not don't risk running the bike but if it is (mine was) you should be ok.
These two, not much you can do about it if either happens. You won't be able to ride out on a hydrolocked bike as it won't run, and don't try to ride out on a motor full of grit unless you absolutely have to as it will destroy the motor.
3) bearing destruction. Oil lubricates, water doesn't. When water gets into the oil, it is also getting circulated around inside your motor and going to all the fun little places oil goes to such as the bearings, etc that oil needs to be in order to stop metal on metal contact. Since the two don't mix (actually don't mix well thanks to additives in most modern motor oils) water can (and will) displace the oil at these critical points causing the bearings to wipe. Time for a rebuild. It does, however, take a lot of water to do this... The general rule is change the oil that was in there when it went under as soon as possible and ideally before running the motor if it appears to be milky in the sight glass. You might be able to make it back to civilization, you might not, depends how much water got in there and how far you have to go. If the oil is gooey chocolate shake looking sludge... don't ride. If its milky looking oil, you might be ok. I didn't risk it as I had people there who could go back to camp and get a trailer to take me and the other two drowned bikes back to camp and eventually home.
lukachuki
Subject: Re: How to drown your WR250R Mon May 03, 2010 11:41 pm
So who is going to come out with the pontoon farkle?
Skeandhu
Subject: Re: How to drown your WR250R Tue May 04, 2010 8:51 pm