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0007onWR
| | Subject: Majority govt for canada Mon May 02, 2011 11:22 pm | |
| Looks like a backfire for Ignatief and we are going to have a majority conservative govt
Even Gilles Ducepp lost to the NDP in Quebec | |
| | | | SheWolf
Alpha Rider
| | | | | Jäger
Admin
| | Subject: Re: Majority govt for canada Tue May 03, 2011 1:56 am | |
| Hahahahaaaaaa...
How SWEET it is!
Ignatieff The Dark Prince lost his own seat and is almost certainly buying plane tickets back to England or the US where he's spent most of his adult life before coming back to Canada to try for a shot at parachuting in as Prime Minister. Maybe this will finally be the moment where the Liberals, like the Conservatives before them after the Kim Campbell debacle, use a thumping to rebuild their party from scratch and get rid of the old backroom boys. And maybe the Liberals will finally abandon trying to be Socialist Lite and competing with the Dippers.
Duceppe got punted in favour of a socialist. Says he's leaving politics but will be around until Quebec becomes its own country. A "free county"... apparently, he doesn't get that citizens in a free country just kicked his ass out and almost all his separatist pals in a free vote. Quebec is the biggest welfare province in Canada for getting transfer payments from the rest of Canada, so I suppose it makes sense they left the Separatists for the socialists.
The Greens... Elizabeth May finally got a brain and ran in Granola Cruncher country - Saltspring Island and the rest of the Gulf Islands. First seat for the Greens in Canada; whether they can become more than a protest vote (The Rhinoceros Party has gotten more votes in the past than the Greens) remains to be seen. So Canadians dumped one American party leader in Ignatieff to pick up another American in May. They finally got an MP but lost 10% of the national vote share they held previously. Who says Canadians demand you be 100% Canadian all the way? And am I bad for thinking she looks like a woodchuck wearing glasses? The woman could eat a cob of corn through a chicken wire fence.
Taliban Jack The John Layton becomes the Opposition Leader. With most of his seats and thus his power base in Quebec. Representing a province that has acted like a spoiled child and used the extortion of their votes in a minority government for the last few governments to get most their way. Keeping them happy should make for good theatre - not to mention Layton will also have to think before he speaks and promises from this point onward. It's one thing to promise the moon when you're running third and fourth and know you'll never have to deliver what you promised. Quite another when you're the Official Opposition. Wonder how many of those bedrock socialists that got Layton to this point will like the "Quebec is special" from the province where the majority of the seats are? Layton can certainly expect a little more attention to his past when he starts bugling from this point onward. Gave a very Obama-like "share the wealth" speech, however.
Which leaves me wondering what Quebec is expecting to get from the party forming the majority government who they resoundingly rejected? Can't cry you were unfairly passed over for cabinet ministers when you chose to elect so few MPs from that party. Or what they expect from Layton, after in the French-language debate, Layton went for broke and talked about re-opening the Constitution in a new deal for Quebec. What's Layton going to do about that - and whatever he decides, ignore or attempt, how will that play out in Quebec and elsewhere? Taliban Jack the John may find his Quebec powerbase to be a very tough taskmaster...
Which leaves the new, solid majority government of the Conservatives under Stephen Harper, "the Bushite", Mr Evil Incarnate.
I guess the country will get to see if all the fear mongering about how he'd grow horns and a tail, ban abortions, teach creationism in schools, throw old grannies out in the street, uncover the "hidden agenda", and hand the keys to Canada over to the US is true. Harper will either deliver even better government with a majority, or simply turn out to be only at his best in a minority government with a leash around his neck.
The funny thing is, the conservatives (well, as conservative as you get in Canada) have to give a big THANK YOU! to the socialists for splitting the vote and handing them a majority. Which goes to prove, sometimes socialists actually serve a useful purpose.
It's going to be interesting times in Canada. Harper finally has a majority government to prove himself better even than in a minority - or flop, which will mean a significant political change further to the left in Canada in the next election. The NDP will have to either grow up as the Official Opposition or find themselves back in the dustbin in the next election. My call is they fail miserably. Separatists have been given the boot for the time being at least, although Layton promised to reopen the Constitution for them. And the Liberals have to either redefine themselves or be gobbled up by the Socialists.
High points: Mark Holland and Ujaal Dosanjh getting sent packing.
Low points: Hedy "Crosses are burning on lawns in Prince George as I speak" Fry getting reelected again. What are people in that riding thinking?
Hahahahaaaaa... one bottle of fine scotch is about to be decimated. Work tomorrow is doubtful... | |
| | | | 0007onWR
| | Subject: Re: Majority govt for canada Tue May 03, 2011 3:03 am | |
| "And am i bad for thinking she looks like a woodchuck wearing glasses? The woman could eat a cob of corn through a chicken wire fence"
Seriously dude, that is totally uncalled for, you are being disrespectful to Woodchucks | |
| | | | Jäger
Admin
| | Subject: Re: Majority govt for canada Tue May 03, 2011 4:32 am | |
| I am ashamed.
I apologize to all woodchucks, everywhere. And all other chubby faced, beady eyed rodents with large front incisors.
What was the name of the bad guy character in one of the Harry Potter movies that turned into a mole or something like that?
I think that was her brother. | |
| | | | Jäger
Admin
| | Subject: Re: Majority govt for canada Tue May 03, 2011 12:46 pm | |
| Grabbed from the Internet; no idea of whether an urban legend or a real story:
I met a young boy the other day.
"Son, what do you want to do when you grow up?" I asked him.
"I want to help the poor and get rid of poverty and make this country great!" he exclaimed.
"Welcome to the NDP party," his parents proudly said.
"Why wait until you grow up?" I asked. "You can come to my house right now. I'll give you $50 to mow my lawn and rake my yard, and then you can go give that money to the poor yourself."
The little boy thought about it for a moment, looking perplexed.
"Why don't you just have the poor come and do it themselves, and they can make the money?"
"Welcome to the Conservative party," I said proudly.
His parents haven't spoken to me since.
Here's to supporting a party that actually makes Canadians earn their keep! | |
| | | | SheWolf
Alpha Rider
| | Subject: Re: Majority govt for canada Tue May 03, 2011 4:50 pm | |
| It's funny how so many ppl I hear are fit to be tied with this turnout. 'OMFGWTF  ...Canada's for sure going to become part of the US cause Harper's a presidential ass-kisser!" I just hope Harper holds true to his promise in bringing back the death penalty. Get rid of all those rapists, child molesters, drug lords and anything else I've missed. Ppl like Bernardo, Olson, Shoenborne and the likes would be dealt with permanently. Hell, go one step further and take those returning soldiers from Afghanistan and start up a firing squad.  Guess we'll see just how many promises Harper actually stands firm on.  As for all the ppl who voted for the NDP and Jack Layton's pie in the sky promises, where's all the funding gonna come from??? Is anyone out there prepared to pay MORE income tax? Higher prices for energy or food? Or would Layton just start printing money like Obama does? Finance our great great great grandchildren's future while we're at it!  Everybody wants premium health care and education, but nobody seems willing to pay for it. Yes, these things are a must in today's society but who gets to foot the bill? Remember we live in a capitalist nation, and like it or not, if we try to take too big of a bite out of the big corporation's asses, they're just gonna leave and set up shop in another country whether we like it or not. That's the sad reality of the economy in Canada. Virtually every person who works in the private sector, is dependent on a large corporation's spin-offs, and to retain a healthy well paid public sector workforce, we need everyone in the private sector to have the ability to pay taxes. So, if we REALLY want to make Canada a better place, and actually HAVE a sustainable economy, pay as we go and not have to mortgage our heirs' heir, maybe we have to start living within our means.  That would probably mean firing a third of our civil servants, and rolling back the wages and benefits of the remaining two-thirds to match more what's paid in the private sector. The biggest problem in Canada and most, if not all western governments, is that it has become a useless and stagnant money gobbling monster. So like it or not, if you're gonna downsize government, that'll mean downsizing the public sector. You might have to get off your ass and have to patch that pothole on the street in front of your house yourself!  _________________ A wolf's voice echoed down the mountain 'Share the bounty of the hunt with your brothers and sisters, and forever be strong and free.'  | |
| | | | Dancamp
| | Subject: Re: Majority govt for canada Tue May 03, 2011 5:04 pm | |
| I can tell you Shewolf that most of the people that voted NPD around me don't know a thing about this party.
They are just tired of the old parties that don't do a thing about people and do everything to promote their ideology, either right or left.
Personnaly I'm pissed off with a constitution where the central government always infringed on provincial territory. It puts all provinces against each other instead of helping in having shared goals.
Fiscally Harper has good ideas but socially his support comes from prehistorical impulses. Layton has the magical thought. He thinks that wishing something makes it possible. Both sides are blinds anyway | |
| | | | Jäger
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| | Subject: Re: Majority govt for canada Tue May 03, 2011 6:07 pm | |
| - SheWolf wrote:
- It's funny how so many ppl I hear are fit to be tied with this turnout. 'OMFGWTF ...Canada's for sure going to become part of the US cause Harper's a presidential ass-kisser!"
Yeah, all you have to do is go to the Communist Broadcasting Corporation comment board for a taste of that. A smorgasbord of individual comments: "we wouldnt have this bush clone ruining our country."
"Goodbye Canada hello dectatorship.
Goodbye human rights hello facism"
"The beginning of the end! Goodbye health care; Goodbye water; Goodbye Canada!"
"Just keep watching how Harper will drag Canada into a police state with poverty for the majority."
"Harper will now no doubt also start diverting huge amounts of tax payers' money into massive prisons and a huge war machine and weapons of mass destruction. The standard mode of operation for a fascist is to first try to cripple or destroy any and all opposition (thus thwarting the checks and balances of democracy) and then start putting all resources into building up a war machine and police state. "
"I am no longer uncertain. I will not have health care. I will not have culture. I will not have disposable income. Only the wealthy will afford university. I am certain laws will be created to fill the new prisons. I am certain that in four year the political landscape will be totally different because the criminals we just gave the control will inevitably destroy the country."
"They will be clamouring to invest in prisons, private schools, private health clinics, gun shops, war enterprizes and practically anything that can be privatized. They will stangle the education system, health care system, trample on womans and minority rights and freedoms.
"We will now see the true Fascist party of Harper. Say good bye to everything that makes Canada , Canada."
"Goodbye health care.
Goodbye science.
Goodbye freedom.
Goodbye women's rights.
Goodbye gay rights." - Quote :
- I just hope Harper holds true to his promise in bringing back the death penalty. Get rid of all those rapists, child molesters, drug lords and anything else I've missed. Ppl like Bernardo, Olson, Shoenborne and the likes would be dealt with permanently. Hell, go one step further and take those returning soldiers from Afghanistan and start up a firing squad. Guess we'll see just how many promises Harper actually stands firm on.
Part of Harper's problem might be people accusing him of failing to fulfill promises he never made. If you can point me to any source where Harper said he would bring back capital punishment, I would like to see it. As far as I know, what Harper has said is he personally sees capital punishment as appropriate at times, but his party has no intentions of reinstating it. The door is kind of closed there anyways after recent SCC decisions held capital punishment to be unconstitutional - Quote :
- Or would Layton just start printing money like Obama does?
I think Layton is going to be preoccupied with Quebec after getting some part of his support in Quebec by saying it was time to reopen the Constitutional debate to see about giving Quebec a better deal during the French debate. That, and the fact Quebecers in some instances elected Dippers who didn't speak French, and in least one instance a pub owner who was off holidaying in Vegas during the election. Watching that would almost be worth paying for cable TV. - Quote :
- Remember we live in a capitalist nation, and like it or not, if we try to take too big of a bite out of the big corporation's asses, they're just gonna leave and set up shop in another country whether we like it or not. That's the sad reality of the economy in Canada.
Sadly, Canada isn't a capitalist nation, at least not any more. Unlike the US constitutional documents that focus on the rights of the individual and individualism, Canada's constitution speaks of the goal of "peace, order, and good government". Nothing about individual freedom, the right to property, the pursuit of happiness, etc. In fact, the right to property was specifically excluded from the Canadian Constitution Act. Canada functions in a somewhat capitalist manner because it has to if the country is to financially survive. But if you think you have rights to your capital, your labour, and your property, you might want to go give the Constitution Act and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms a read. The debates among Turdeau and the provincial premiers from that time make for quite an eye opener. You're generally right about "big business". What all the socialists screaming "stick it to 'em" forgets is corporations who remain in business never pay taxes. The consumers who buy those "big business" products and services, either directly or as value added to an end product pay the taxes. When government raises taxes to "stick it to 'em", the corporation simply passes on those taxes to the end user as yet another cost of doing business. And maybe cuts a few jobs along the way to reduce costs. Or, yes indeed, move parts of their operation to other jurisdictions to less punitive jurisdictions. If they don't, then they go out of business. To survive as a business, big or small, you need to bring in more money than you have to hand over by way of business expenses and taxes. It's just that simple, so at the end taxes on "big business" get paid by Mr. Individual who buys the product. The problem gets worse. Even if you claim that every dollar taxed out of "big oil" (or big whatever) - or even individual income tax for that matter - is intended for social programs, helping the poor, etc, that's not how it works out. By the time that dollar passes through the government digestive tract to drop out the Anus of Entitlements, the government infrastructure to handle that dollar from beginning to end, the employees to do the moving, the business costs of government moving that dollar, etc mean an awful lot of that original tax dollar evaporated on it's trip through the government colon. Dippers like Jack the John Layton and the socialist Libs (mostly executed last night with the exception of a few like Hedy Fry) can't grasp that we don't have an under-taxation problem - we have a problem with a large segment of the population demanding that government do everything for them, but somebody else other than them should have to foot the bill. | |
| | | | Jäger
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| | Subject: Re: Majority govt for canada Tue May 03, 2011 6:30 pm | |
| - Dancamp wrote:
- I can tell you Shewolf that most of the people that voted NPD around me don't know a thing about this party.
They are just tired of the old parties that don't do a thing about people and do everything to promote their ideology, either right or left. The blackmail that Duceppe extorted for Quebec was not enough for those Quebeckers? The transfer payments those "old parties" hand over from other provinces to Quebec weren't enough for them? The child care and other social programs Quebec gets, courtesy of those "old parties", isn't enough for them? If so, it doesn't appear that Quebec will ever be governable to their satisfaction. Quebec was indeed treated very badly and as second class citizens for many decades, but now they've moved from that to the Spoiled Child Syndrome. - Quote :
- Personnaly I'm pissed off with a constitution where the central government always infringed on provincial territory. It puts all provinces against each other instead of helping in having shared goals.
The BNA and it's current division of power is nothing new, and isn't changing much either way. The reality is Canada is indeed a case of "two solitudes" in many ways. And a lot of Canadians simply are not going to support sentiment in Quebec that they are somehow special and more unique, deserving of special privileges and a nation within a nation, having not only the rights and priviledges of all Canadians, but a bit extra as well because they're Quebeckers. Nor will you find a majority of Canadians who think Quebec is entitled to suck off the national tit (otherwise known as transfer payments) indefinitely, so that they can have social programs that Canadians living in provinces which pay the taxes to provide those transfer payments and social programs don't get. If you think there is a province out there, of any stripe, that is going to buy into sharing that vision with Quebec, you're dreaming in technicolor. No matter which federal government is in power. And that is just one example of why this has nothing to do with federalism and claims it pits provinces against each other. Provinces each have their own priorities and concerns, and attempts to equalize economic results and say some pigs are more equal than others at the expense of other provinces just ain't gonna fly. - Quote :
- Fiscally Harper has good ideas but socially his support comes from prehistorical impulses.
Yes, the 40% of Canadians who voted for Harper are motivated by "prehistorical impulses". Not smart guys like you. Of course, that 40% hold the opinion your mindset comes from the very shallow end of the intellect pool. Not to mention a bit overly smug and elitist, coming from a province whose ability to deliver those social services is only due to the sweat and labour of the unwashed masses paying taxes in other, less enlightened areas. I'm sure you disagree with that assessment of your intellect, just as I'm sure those you describe as "prehistoric" think you're a bit out to lunch as well. Which you can take as just another example of why Kumbaya and "shared goals" isn't going to happen on anything other than a very broad scale on very general principles. | |
| | | | Dancamp
| | Subject: Re: Majority govt for canada Tue May 03, 2011 7:26 pm | |
| Oh Jaëger what fabulous words from a want to be. | |
| | | | Jäger
Admin
| | Subject: Re: Majority govt for canada Tue May 03, 2011 7:48 pm | |
| - Dancamp wrote:
- Oh Jaëger what fabulous words from a want to be.
Beats posting thoughtless and indefensible drivel! | |
| | | | Dancamp
| | Subject: Re: Majority govt for canada Tue May 03, 2011 8:10 pm | |
| From who's it's coming I'll take it as a compliment. | |
| | | | SheWolf
Alpha Rider
| | Subject: Re: Majority govt for canada Tue May 03, 2011 8:55 pm | |
| - Quote :
- Prime Minister Stephen Harper's personal support for the death penalty is "outlandish" and out of step with the world at large, says the head of Amnesty International. Moreover, Harper's musing — made in a CBC interview in January with Peter Mansbridge — that he personally favours the death penalty in some instances ignores the fact that no proof exists that executions deter crime, Amnesty Secretary General Salil Shetty told The Canadian Press in an interview Thursday.
- Quote :
- Harper came out in Part 2 of his interview with Peter Mansbridge of the CBC saying he personally prefers the death penalty in some cases.
Some folks seem to be surprised by the admission, but I’d have been more surprised if he had come out and said that he wasn’t. I’ve assumed all along he’s been in favour of the death penalty, since he and his Conservative government tried to end the long-standing Liberal and Progressive Conservative policies of asking for clemency for Canadians sentenced to death in other countries (which was halted when the Supreme Court ruled against them).
The bigger issue is the 2nd part, where he claimed he wouldn’t make this into official government policy to re-introduce it if he won a majority. He might not “officially” make it into a government bill, but the question is whether he’d allow a Conservative private members bill to proceed, and give it a “wink-wink, nudge-nudge”, as he and his government tried to do with the long-gun registry private members bill from a Conservative MP (and they didn’t hide their “unofficial” support very well, I might add). - Quote :
- The opposition is crying "hidden agenda" again after Prime Minister Stephen Harper mused in an interview that he favours the death penalty in certain situations.
NDP Leader Jack Layton suggested Wednesday that Harper is leaving room for a private member's bill.
"It was a bit of a curious answer," Layton told The Canadian Press Wednesday.
"What does that mean? Does that mean we're going to see a private member's bill instead of a government bill coming forward?"
The Liberals responded by saying Harper's social views on issues such as the death penalty and abortion are being held in check by a minority government.
"I don't think Mr. Harper can be trusted on significant issues like abortion, capital punishment and for that matter, even gun control," Liberal MP David McGuinty said in a press conference Wednesday.
"Mr. Harper runs a nudge-nudge-wink-wink campaign on significant difficult moral issues for Canadians."
McGuinty dared Harper to bring the issue before Parliament.
"If Mr. Harper is genuinely in favour of capital punishment then he should say so and bring a bill to the floor of the House of Commons," he said. _________________ A wolf's voice echoed down the mountain 'Share the bounty of the hunt with your brothers and sisters, and forever be strong and free.' | |
| | | | Dancamp
| | Subject: Re: Majority govt for canada Tue May 03, 2011 9:52 pm | |
| Shewolf, I must say I don't think Harper will venture in this area.
I admit that some of his supporters are extremists but I'm not convinced he is himself. | |
| | | | SheWolf
Alpha Rider
| | Subject: Re: Majority govt for canada Tue May 03, 2011 9:57 pm | |
| I guess all we can do is wait and see. But typical of political style, what they say vs what they actually do is a complete reversal.  _________________ A wolf's voice echoed down the mountain 'Share the bounty of the hunt with your brothers and sisters, and forever be strong and free.' | |
| | | | Jäger
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| | Subject: Re: Majority govt for canada Tue May 03, 2011 11:53 pm | |
| First, nothing in that says anything different than the fact Harper as an individual sees capital punishment as appropriate in some instances.
He also said he had no intention of making it a policy of his government. Which seems about as clear as could be asked for.
All the blithering about private member's bills ignores the fact Harper can't prevent private member's bills coming forward any more than the Liberals could prevent that nutbar member of theirs putting forward that racist bill a couple of years ago during their last government. And private members' bills, traditionally, are not whipped votes (although the late and unlamented Dark Prince changed that on the vote on the firearms registry).
The rest is the usual fearmongering from Jack the John Layton and others, desperately trying to win votes by scaring Canadians into believing that yes, Harper really does have horns, a spiked tail, and a secret agenda to outlaw abortion, bring back the noose, throw small children on bonfires, etc, etc.
If Harper HAD made a promise to bring back capital punishment, it would have been the defining issue of the election. And the Conservatives would have probably placed third behind the Liberals and Dippers.
The bottom line is claiming Harper didn't make good on his promise to bring back the death penalty somewhere down the line when he never made any such promise is pretty unfair. | |
| | | | Jäger
Admin
| | Subject: Re: Majority govt for canada Tue May 03, 2011 11:53 pm | |
| - Dancamp wrote:
- From who's it's coming I'll take it as a compliment.
Dream on in your welfare province, Danny boy. The blackmail ended last night. | |
| | | | Jäger
Admin
| | Subject: Re: Majority govt for canada Wed May 04, 2011 5:46 am | |
| As the results rolled in regarding the carnage in Quebec... First it was the Liberal supporters...  And then the Bloc supporters got a taste of the same sandwich...  | |
| | | | SheWolf
Alpha Rider
| | | | | taoshum
| | Subject: Re: Majority govt for canada Wed May 04, 2011 5:59 pm | |
| Guess where the US is headed? The geezer's are a clear majority and they vote in every election. It's coming to Ca too, yes?
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h4UODZ_IlJ2cZQg6GTbMudxhnoAw?docId=84b8f97201f84ff88ede23d516d11999
an excerpt:
WASHINGTON (AP) — For the first time, Americans 45 and older make up a majority of the voting-age population, giving older Americans wider influence in elections as the U.S. stands divided over curtailing Medicare and other benefits for seniors. Along with the information about the growing influence of older adults, preliminary census estimates also show a decline in the number of married couples with children, slight growth in household size and a rapid rise in the number of Mexicans. The findings, based on the latest publicly available government data, offer a preview of trends that will be detailed in the next round of 2010 census results being released this month that focus on age, household relationships and racial subgroups.
As a whole, the numbers point to a rapidly graying nation driven largely by the nation's 78 million baby boomers, who are now between the ages of 46 and 65 and looking ahead to retirement.
"The center of American politics gets older," said E. Mark Braden, a former chief counsel to the Republican National Committee who now advises elected officials and state legislatures. "Given the current fiscal concerns, it's going to be a test case whether Republicans or Democrats can talk about entitlement reform without getting killed" politically. Currently, there are roughly 119 million people 45 and older who make up 51 percent of the voting-age population, with Americans 55 and older representing a large bulk of that group. The new majority share is up from 46 percent in 2000 and 42 percent in 1990.
The preliminary figures are based on the Census Bureau's 2009 population estimates as well as the 2009 American Community Survey, which samples 3 million U.S. households. The 2010 census surveyed the entire nation.
Broken down by subgroups, older boomers ages 55-64 were the fastest-growing group since 2000, jumping 43 percent to approximately 35 million.
Based on actual election turnout, which is higher for older Americans, census data show that baby boomers and seniors ages 45 and older represent about 60 percent of voters in national races, judging by the 2008 presidential race. Nearly 1 out of 2 voters is 50 or older.
"Boomers have now crossed the line between thinking about Medicare and Social Security as an issue for their parents, to being worried about it for themselves," said William H. Frey, a demographer at Brookings Institution who did a broad analysis of available census data. "More so than their parents, boomers face increasing costs of medical care and the risk that government pensions will need to substitute for downturns in their 401k plans.
"Their interest in the viability of Medicare should be priority one for politicians seeking office, especially in aging regions of the country," he said.
much more in the link... | |
| | | | Dancamp
| | Subject: Re: Majority govt for canada Wed May 04, 2011 6:42 pm | |
| - Jäger wrote:
Dream on in your welfare province, Danny boy.
The blackmail ended last night. If Québec was such a burden for the rest of Canada, they would support the separatists. The last time there was such a sweep by a federalist government in Québec it raised the numbers of people supporting separation. And about the fact that we are socialists, it is our choice not yours. And the argument that other provinces are paying for our welfare just shows how ignorant you are about the whole picture. The perequation is only a part of the equation. But don't try to understand the whole situation, you are to busy to brag to start learning. You're like any fearsome old man that can only see things through old memories. You thrive in division since you can't accept the fact that there are a lot of people that live happy in a system you can't understand. Everything in your mind is related to owning something. When you ear share you understand charity. I understand it rocks an old man like you, but like it or not the world today is not the same it was centuries ago. The evolution is not going your way and that's because more and more people start to realise that living together means making compromises. If the way you see democracy is a perpetual fight instead of a quest of better living together move to a country where a dictator that shares your views is leading. In free countries we must accept that it's not my way or no way. Sometimes it leans to one side and sometimes to another, life adapts to environment and becomes better with it. And note that every step in human evolution is following a dream. Aren't you able to dream a little old man ? | |
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| | Subject: Re: Majority govt for canada Wed May 04, 2011 9:48 pm | |
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| | | | SheWolf
Alpha Rider
| | Subject: Re: Majority govt for canada Wed May 04, 2011 10:18 pm | |
| *bends over and finds a peanut* Heyyyyy...I wonder who this belongs to??  _________________ A wolf's voice echoed down the mountain 'Share the bounty of the hunt with your brothers and sisters, and forever be strong and free.' | |
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