Are FMF, Dobeck and Attitude programmers the exact same?

Hello,
I am looking to buy a programmer.

Is there any difference between the FMF, Dobeck and Attitude industries???

Attitude industries sells three different versions...but their web site does not have any information about them.  

I will be running it on a stock bike except for the exhaust which has had the Cat. converter and exup removed and the air intake flapper door removed.

Short answer No.

They all do the same things but the settings can be different from one to the next so you cant use fmfs settings on a attitude programmer etc. it will run but wont be ideal.

Attitude sells versions with extra features but I havent seen anything on here about them.

http://tunewithattitude.com/EFI_controllers.php  <-- click it

The Gen 3 is basically just like the FmF pogrammer. 

You can always call Attitude and ask them questions if you have them. 

One thing you won't get from the AI programmers is a stumble due to 5th number setting being set below six. 

motokid wrote:

http://tunewithattitude.com/EFI_controllers.php  <-- click it

The Gen 3 is basically just like the FmF pogrammer. 

You can always call Attitude and ask them questions if you have them. 

One thing you won't get from the AI programmers is a stumble due to 5th number setting being set below six. 

 
Hello Motokid<
I somehow missed the comparsion on the Attitude website.
I am leaning towards the 3.2 version, i will give them a call
Thank you,
Ken

SLOWRIDER wrote:

motokid wrote:

http://tunewithattitude.com/EFI_controllers.php  <-- click it

The Gen 3 is basically just like the FmF pogrammer. 

You can always call Attitude and ask them questions if you have them. 

One thing you won't get from the AI programmers is a stumble due to 5th number setting being set below six. 

 
Hello Motokid<
I somehow missed the comparsion on the Attitude website.
I am leaning towards the 3.2 version, i will give them a call
Thank you,
Ken

I am interested in this too. Did you find out anything from Attitude on what the differences are between their versions?

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I am interested in this too.  Did you find out anything from Attitude on what the differences are between their versions?

Did you click the link I provided?  

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KEY DIFFERENCES:
THE GEN 3 CONTROLLER ADDS FUEL BY OFFSETTING THE PULSE WIDTH A GIVEN FIXED VALUE.  i.e. – you add 1 ms of pulse width  

THE GEN 3.2 CONTROLLER CAN BOTH ADD FUEL BY OFFSETTING THE PULSE WIDTH OR ADD FUEL BY CALCULATING A PERCENTAGE OF THE STOCK INJECTOR PULSE WIDTH. i.e. – you add 10% more pulse width  

THE GEN 3.5 CONTROLLER CAN ADD OR SUBTRACT FUEL BY CALCULATING A PERCENTAGE OF THE STOCK INJECTOR PULSE WIDTH. i.e. – you can subtract 10% fuel

Hello Wapner,

I did call the company, unfortunatley the number for the company is a cell number and I could barley hear what the person was saying.

He did say that he thought I should go with their first generation model (I was thinking I want the one with all the bells and whistles)

Since I could only understand ever other word of the converstation i did not find out way he was recommending the entry level model.

I plan to send him and e-mail when i have the chance for a detailed explanation

SLOWRIDER wrote:

Hello Wapner,

I did call the company, unfortunatley the number for the company is a cell number and I could barley hear what the person was saying.

He did say that he thought I should go with their first generation model (I was thinking I want the one with all the bells and whistles)

Since I could only understand ever other word of the converstation i did not find out way he was recommending the entry level model.

I plan to send him and e-mail when i have the chance for a detailed explanation

I've been researching EFI optomizers and as far as I can tell the FMF, Attitude and others are all made by Bodeck and pretty much do the same stuff. The 3.2 and up can add and reduce fuel while the 3.0 can only add. Since they work by piggy backing on the bike's ECU you don't really need to worry about reducing any fuel. Also from my reading pretty much all the units available for the WR250R are the 3.0 unit and it's the one that's recommended as well. You don't really need any of the other features anyway.

Anybody using an Attitude industries Gen3 on a stock bike? Im looking for some settings.

crazy_dave wrote:

Anybody using an Attitude industries Gen3 on a stock bike? Im looking for some settings.

I would check out this thread here.

Start with those settings that are a closest match to what you have. then tweak a little here and there until you find something "perfect".

If I recall, setting all lights to 0.5 is basically setting the programmer to nothing and bike will run as stock ECU determines.

So if you're 100% stock, and you start with 1,1,1,5,5,5 and then adjust from there, you're by no means going to be risking anything. You'll be just a tiny bit richer than stock.

I'd be more tempted to try the numbers some of the guys using the FmF programmers are using though.

motokid wrote:

crazy_dave wrote:

Anybody using an Attitude industries Gen3 on a stock bike? Im looking for some settings.

I would check out this thread here.

Start with those settings that are a closest match to what you have. then tweak a little here and there until you find something "perfect".

If I recall, setting all lights to 0.5 is basically setting the programmer to nothing and bike will run as stock ECU determines.

So if you're 100% stock, and you start with  1,1,1,5,5,5 and then adjust from there, you're by no means going to be risking anything. You'll be just a tiny bit richer than stock.

I'd be more tempted to try the numbers some of the guys using the FmF programmers are using though.

Hey, welcome back. How was the vacation?

I got the programmer a day or two after you left. Thanx again.

Vacation was wonderful and relaxing. Thanks.
Hope you enjoy the programmer.