Intent to Recall - overheating stator

I received a letter from Yamaha last week for the recall too.

I went to the dealer the next day and got the stator on order, I was the forth person to do so that day.

Its pretty easy for me to drop the bike off to them and pick it up the next day on my way to and from work so I will when the parts show up.

I thought the "new" bikes might be ok... but my local dealer said that they have stators on order for two 2015 models still in the crate. I can do the swap.. but have other things higher on my priority list during the short summer season here... .. i'll take time to give the bike a good cleaning so hopefully any crap won't drop into the engine when they pop the side off.

I've had my recall letter for a week (in Canada), just too busy to do anything about it right now, but plan to call the dealer next week.

You guys should be thankful it's not an F800GS. I have one of those too, and they seem to have the same problem, at least the older ones. I know several people who've had to change their own, on their own dime. BMW has not issued a recall, nor do they seem inclined to do so. It's an expensive job. At some point (maybe 2012?) BMW replaced the rotor with one with bigger holes in it, presumably to aid with cooling. I love the F800, but at this point, I'm considering whether to just trade it for something else.

Got my new stator, and made the swap myself.

Heres some pictures.

Bike on its side, and all the tools:


Old stator, looks pretty fine:


Flywheel:


Old vs new, the new looks brighter in color:


Old stator, looks slightly burn on the single wires around the egdes:


New stator, looks kinda poorly made with the excess epoxy:


One of the sidecover bolts have a copperwasher, dont know why:


It took less than an hour, 4 bolts for the skidplate, 3 bolts for the casesaver, 2 bolts for the black piece of plastic in front of the catch tank. Then the sidecover, and 5 bolts for the stator and pickup.
I was able to unplug the connectors, without removing seat, sidepanel and gastank.

Turned the bike on, and saw 14,45v at idle, good to go. (Sorry, didnt meassure it before, but never had problems)

The kit from Yamaha includes:

Stator with pickup
Copperwasher for the drainplug (didnt need it)
New gasket
New bolts for stator and pickup (remember threadlocker)
Misc cableties

It didnt include a new copperwasher for the one bolt in the stator/side-cover.

The old stator looked fine, I wouldnt have giving it any though if this was pulled from another bike. Upon close inspection, the stator looked ever so slightly burnt around the egdes, and the copperstrings seems darker than the new one.

I need to bring the old stator back to the Yamaha-shop.

The bike has just over 10.000km, with a lot of enduroriding, with the fan switching on and off.

jens, your gasket looks so nice and not torn up do you have any tips? what year is yours?

does anyone know if the dealer{s}are putting new engine oil after the stator swap? I noticed that Jens said their was a new copper washer for the drain plug...

blusmoke wrote:

jens, your gasket looks so nice and not torn up do you have any tips? what year is yours?

It came pretty clean of, used a knife for where it was stuck.

rarepartbuilder wrote:

does anyone know if the dealer{s}are putting new engine oil after the stator swap? I noticed that Jens said their was a new copper washer for the drain plug...

Dont think thats included, I just tilted my bike over a bit, and didnt bother to change the oil as it was fresh. So I got an original yamaha copperwasher for free, yay...

Stator came in, took the bike over to the dealer, 1/2 block from my house, new stator, oil and filter 1/2 hour and it was done, no charge, cant get any easier than that. the old one did look a little burned compared to the new one, all good.

same here with the dealer oil change..timing was great as i had bought oil filters to do an oil change just prior to the recall . Thanks to Jens post/menson of the oil plug crush washer i held off to get a freebee lube job

Not meaning to be harsh, but not changing the oil after working on the motor? It's <1.5L of oil! I dumped mine, changed the stator, re-filled with new oil and ran it for 20km, then changed both oil and filter. Sometimes, from my experience, crud can sneak into the motor, no matter how careful you are. Even if it's a piece of gasket, or dirt trapped behind a bolt. It's also why I rarely lean a bike away from me to work on it. Crud falls in, tough to get out.

Just my 2c, for what it's worth.

Yup cheap insurance changing the oil and filter, 1.3L for mine, filter $7 bucks and I buy 4.5L of oil for $12 bucks I change both about every 1000 KM, I know its over kill but those little motors work there ass off, cheer`s

I use Amsoil 20W-50 Synthetic Motorcycle Oil and the oil only has around 100 km on it. I will need to talk to the service guy and see if they will replace it.

66T wrote:

Not meaning to be harsh, but not changing the oil after working on the motor? It's <1.5L of oil! I dumped mine, changed the stator, re-filled with new oil and ran it for 20km, then changed both oil and filter. Sometimes, from my experience, crud can sneak into the motor, no matter how careful you are. Even if it's a piece of gasket, or dirt trapped behind a bolt. It's also why I rarely lean a bike away from me to work on it. Crud falls in, tough to get out.

Just my 2c, for what it's worth.

I dont know if that was to me.... But here goes...

You say you rarele lean the bike away to work on, me too....So whats the problem?

I dont mean to be harsh either....But I'll make sure to tell my xt600 with 156.000km on it to go blow up, I did the same with that one a couple of times, theres really nothing to it...  That makes 3 times I've leaned a "open" bike over to work on it, thats pretty rare at 150.000km of riding bikes in my book...

I guess I just have more confidence in myself and my work, so I dont need to throw away good oil, poor on some new oil, and throw that away after 20km. But on the behalf of my unborn children, let me thank you for the xtra 3 liters of used oil we now have to recycle....

Each to his own I guess...


Just trying to help here, showing the differences between the stators, and how easy the swap is so others can follow. I bet they will change the oil if they feel its a concern for them. But I dont think many will change the stator with the bike on the sidestand anyways, its way easier to work on when you can see everything. Easy means less mistakes for me.

So I guess it just would be nice with a bit more credit, but feel free to post your guide "the right way" so even more can benefit

General thoughts:

Funny how some people brag about how often they change oil, and then they use some of the cheapest oil they can find... Doesnt make sence. I dont go 6000km on mine, as I seem to use it a bit outside of what Mr. Yamaha intended, but I sure as hell dont change it at 1000km. Heck my friends on their orange racebikes go over 1000km on oil.

But yeah, were all different, and thats a good thing.

Good day folks...

While I do understand, and to a point agree with, 66T's point, I also agree (more so) with Jens' point of enjoying a free oil change and not wasting it.
FWIW, I change my oil once a year, but I use Motul 7100 100% synthetic.

As I said, just my 2c, for what it's worth. It was only my opinion, and didn't warrant that tirade imo. But it is an opinion based on my experience, as I clearly stated. Yours is different, which is good. Whatever works for you, and anyone else.

It's all fine, you are well entitled to your say, as I am. We will have to agree to disagree.

Bottom line? Let's hope the new stators fix the issue. Obviously it will be a while before we really know, but good for Yamaha in that they have upgraded the part.

Agree

Mine has spent its first 4-5 years as a dedicated endurobike by the PO, so I was really surprised to see the stator in such good state.

I've run it in sand with the fan coming on/off, but have never seen the temp warning light.

lank wrote:

I use Amsoil 20W-50 Synthetic Motorcycle Oil and the oil only has around 100 km on it. I will need to talk to the service guy and see if they will replace it.

I called Yamaha Canada and they will not put synthetic oil back in the bike after the recall is done. I don't drive the bike much and just spent $50.00 on my oil and filter. (in Canada the price is higher for the filter and oil) The bike is a 2008 and it only has 4700km. I will wait and have the recall done next year when the bike needs the oil changed again. (I just switch to synthetic because I like to ride the bike when it is cold outside under 20C down to 10C) The bike does not get much use in the heat of the summer.

Well my dealer is useless, rang and apparently ordered the part over a week ago and no phone call back.

Alex my part took almost 2 weeks they are backed up since the recall, once they get it only takes 1/2 hour to do the job, pretty easy.

My parts were ordered 3 weeks ago....Be patient, the recall hit and a lot of owners are waiting for parts.

this is the second time i've had to call though (when they actually told me this time they were ordering parts). the other occasion they didn't get back to me (when recall was first announced in oz).

service department isn't very good unfortunately only dealer around me ~45min drive away.

On the face of it, that's pretty rubbish if the parts are in stock. Most Yam dealers here in Adelaide or other capital cities get stuff overnight from Yamaha Australia. Regional areas probably a day or two more, I'd say.

I called the dealer 2 weeks ago, the service manager checked the VIN and said mine is listed in the recall. He got a stator in and I had it replaced today.

The service from them was great so I'll be happy to go back if I need to.

I have to say my dealer was fast. It was only a couple of days, and the stator was in for me to exchange.

Which doesn't help alexWR much. Sorry mate, not meaning to rub your face in it. Just pointing out that some shops are onto it, and having a go.

Well it's been 3.5 weeks and I stopped by my local dealer today to see what's up. They've got my parts....
When were they going to call me? Anyhow, it'll be done on Friday. I'll let you guys know how it goes.