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PostSubject: Model history?   Model history? EmptyTue Oct 16, 2012 3:50 pm

Hi

Is the black frame only 2008 model?

/Slim
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motokid
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PostSubject: Re: Model history?   Model history? EmptyTue Oct 16, 2012 4:08 pm

I believe, the black frame is for X's, and the silver frame is for R's.

They stopped bringing X's into the USofA after 2011.

I think that's the way it works.

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2008 WR250X
Gearing: 13t - 48t
Power Commander 5 / PC-V
Airbox Door Removed - Flapper glued - AIS removed
FmF Q4
Bridgestone Battlax BT-003rs
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PostSubject: Re: Model history?   Model history? EmptyWed Oct 17, 2012 6:23 am

Any other suggestions? R´ definitely also black. White plastics only 2008 R´ or?
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PostSubject: Re: Model history?   Model history? EmptyWed Oct 17, 2012 6:43 am

So, please go to a Yamaha website and find page with an "R" model that has a black frame. Please post link to that.

Granted - I only looked at the Yamaha-USA pages. dunno





_________________
2008 WR250X
Gearing: 13t - 48t
Power Commander 5 / PC-V
Airbox Door Removed - Flapper glued - AIS removed
FmF Q4
Bridgestone Battlax BT-003rs
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YZEtc

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PostSubject: Re: Model history?   Model history? EmptyWed Oct 17, 2012 6:47 am

Slim might be from outside the USA, as I recall seeing pics of WR-250Rs in other countries with black frames.
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Dovi

Dovi



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PostSubject: Black frames in the Europe   Model history? EmptyThu Oct 18, 2012 3:49 am

YZEtc wrote:
Slim might be from outside the USA, as I recall seeing pics of WR-250Rs in other countries with black frames.
Hi all,
e.g. here in Europe are both WR250X and WR250R (and all model years) with black frames...


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PostSubject: Re: Model history?   Model history? EmptyThu Oct 18, 2012 4:04 am

My new (only 2 months old) WR250X

Model history? Wr250x11
 


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PostSubject: Re: Model history?   Model history? EmptyThu Oct 18, 2012 4:09 am

And my latest bike, only 1 month "old" WR250R - really 4 years old but as new (only 3600 km & from first very scrupulous user)

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PostSubject: Re: Model history?   Model history? EmptyThu Oct 18, 2012 4:33 am

My great WR250R (thanks, Yamaha), with black frame - any more from left side

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PostSubject: Re: Model history?   Model history? EmptyThu Oct 18, 2012 5:35 am

Those crazy Europeans.... woohoo

Black fork tubes. X only. Maybe. Never can tell what those Europeans might do next. amazon amazon

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2008 WR250X
Gearing: 13t - 48t
Power Commander 5 / PC-V
Airbox Door Removed - Flapper glued - AIS removed
FmF Q4
Bridgestone Battlax BT-003rs
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PostSubject: Re: Model history?   Model history? EmptyThu Oct 18, 2012 7:56 am

motokid wrote:
Those crazy Europeans.... woohoo

Black fork tubes. X only. Maybe. Never can tell what those Europeans might do next. amazon amazon

Hmm, unfortunately no option for us end users aka common people.
Only WR with black frame - or no WR...

And for sure - I thing too that silver (native) frame is generally better because of resistance against abrasion.
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Dovi

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PostSubject: Re: Model history?   Model history? EmptyThu Oct 18, 2012 8:13 am

I must say... my big apology for my bad English...

I have only two semesters of the English language, more than 30 years ago. And in the first semester we discussed mainly about actual death (assassination) of John Lennon - unfortunately in our native language and not in English.
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PostSubject: Re: Model history?   Model history? EmptyThu Oct 18, 2012 8:59 am

Lot's of options and colours worldwide but limited choice locally.
Canada follows the US in choice, only has higher pricing budah


Dovi wrote:
I must say... my big apology for my bad English...

I have only two semesters of the English language, more than 30 years ago. And in the first semester we discussed mainly about actual death (assassination) of John Lennon - unfortunately in our native language and not in English.

Nothing wrong with your English thumb What do you mean John Lennon is dead? What?

Middle Europe? What country?
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PostSubject: Re: Model history?   Model history? EmptyThu Oct 18, 2012 9:31 am

Delta_T wrote:
Lot's of options and colours worldwide but limited choice locally.
Canada follows the US in choice, only has higher pricing budah


Dovi wrote:
I must say... my big apology for my bad English...

I have only two semesters of the English language, more than 30 years ago. And in the first semester we discussed mainly about actual death (assassination) of John Lennon - unfortunately in our native language and not in English.

Nothing wrong with your English thumb What do you mean John Lennon is dead? What?

Middle Europe? What country?

Middle of the Middle Europe... Czech republic... end of WW2 in Europe... Prague, Pilsner beer etc. :-)
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PostSubject: Re: Model history?   Model history? EmptyThu Oct 18, 2012 9:38 am

Been there, before and after the Iron Curtain thing. Amazing difference. Prague is young and hip nowadays, not so much in the Czechoslovakia days.

Lots of history there, too much if you ask me. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Model history?   Model history? EmptyThu Oct 18, 2012 12:39 pm

What is different and upgraded during the years? Are all part the same 2008-2013 (colors and graphics excluded)?
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PostSubject: Re: Model history?   Model history? EmptyThu Oct 18, 2012 7:57 pm

Same machine from 2008 to present.
That's how it is for USA models, anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Model history?   Model history? EmptyFri Oct 19, 2012 5:35 am

YZEtc wrote:
Same machine from 2008 to present.
That's how it is for USA models, anyway.

Don't forget, some 2008 models had issues with bad fuel pumps, and the 2008 models had shitty gaskets on the sprockets that the other models did not.

(at least in the North American models... Very happy )

_________________
2008 WR250X
Gearing: 13t - 48t
Power Commander 5 / PC-V
Airbox Door Removed - Flapper glued - AIS removed
FmF Q4
Bridgestone Battlax BT-003rs
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PostSubject: Re: Model history?   Model history? EmptyFri Oct 19, 2012 7:19 am

slim wrote:
What is different and upgraded during the years? Are all part the same 2008-2013 (colors and graphics excluded)?

Rick Ramsey writes on his pages http://www.rickramsey.net/WR250Rmods.htm about these changes:


WR250R changes from '08 to '09

There are 27 parts changes from '08 to '09; two are cosmetic (decals), one is an informational decal, and the other 24 are mechanical. The changes are minor; the left crankshaft bearing and valve lifter are the only engine mods.
See here: http://www.rickramsey.net/WR250R0809.htm



WR250R changes from '09 to '10

There are 31 parts changes from '09 to '10; 4 are cosmetic (decals), 4 are informational decals, and the other 23 are mechanical. The changes are minor; the cam chain tensioner assembly and the counter balancer bearing are the only significant engine mods. Notable unchanged parts are the fuel pump (same as '08), transmission/clutch (same as '08), and almost all of the engine (same as '08).
See here: http://www.rickramsey.net/WR250R0910.htm



WR250R changes from '10 to '11

There are 30 parts changes from '10 to '11; 4 are cosmetic (decals) and the other 26 are mechanical/electrical. The changes are minor; the crank pin is the only significant engine mod. Notable unchanged parts are the transmission/clutch (same as '08) and almost all of the engine (same as '08).
See here: http://www.rickramsey.net/WR250R1011.htm



WR250R changes from '11 to '12

There are 134 parts changes from '11 to '12: 4 are cosmetic (decals), 112 are mechanical/electrical, and 18 are in the engine/tranny. In my opinion, the changes are minor, but check the list to see for yourself.
This year, many of the changes seem very minor such as these (count of occurrences is shown in either '11 or '12 part description): BAND 10, BOLT 34, CLAMP 11, COLLAR 6, NUT 8, SCREW 24, WASHER 7
I have not tried to determine the effects or extent of these and other minor changes. For some parts, I have added a note where I think I know what's going on with the change.
See here: http://www.rickramsey.net/WR250R1112.htm


General (common) remark:
A part is assumed to be changed if the part number for '12 is changed from the '11 part number. However, a part number can be unchanged, but the part is actually changed. Case in point - the fuel pump assembly. Replacement fuel pump assemblies have the same assembly part number, but an inspection of the assembly shows the pump motor has a different part number on it, and the fuel pump performs differently (riders report hearing a stronger sounding motor).
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