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renato_pt
| Subject: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Mon May 14, 2012 3:29 pm | |
| good guys, I have a question what is the best map for my bike ... Setup: AIS Removed Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Flapper Removed K & N Filter Air box door Out Stock Exhaust
My transmission is 13/42
I currently have this map: 22-016-002 Stock exhaust, Stock air filter, airbox lid removed
Greetings | |
| | | BuilderBob
| Subject: Re: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Mon May 14, 2012 8:25 pm | |
| Without an Auotune, probably your best bet. | |
| | | anoldsman
| Subject: Re: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Tue May 15, 2012 1:19 pm | |
| - BuilderBob wrote:
- Without an Auotune, probably your best bet.
I agree. The AutoTune is a very nice feature if you can dig up enough money to get it. I also really like the LCD with data logging. It is a huge help to fine tune your map for efficiency / mileage or power. With a completely stock setup I went from 65 mpg to 70 mpg with my fist try. I have since put on a DDR exhaust and the mileage dropped back down to 65 mpg. But, I have more tuning to go if needed and the extra power / noise is nice with these lovely Memphis drivers. | |
| | | motokid Moderator
| Subject: Re: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Tue May 15, 2012 1:40 pm | |
| Why are there not more maps for the PCV available by now?
Seems like a very limited quantity exist.
Too limited for a bike that's been around since 2008.
_________________ 2008 WR250X Gearing: 13t - 48t Power Commander 5 / PC-V Airbox Door Removed - Flapper glued - AIS removed FmF Q4 Bridgestone Battlax BT-003rs
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| | | BuilderBob
| Subject: Re: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Tue May 15, 2012 2:22 pm | |
| - motokid wrote:
- Why are there not more maps for the PCV available by now?
Seems like a very limited quantity exist.
Too limited for a bike that's been around since 2008.
Might be because of the cost of entry into the Autotune club. Most maps available on the Dynojet site have been submitted by end-users. There just aren't that many out there, is my guess. | |
| | | twday
| Subject: Re: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Tue May 15, 2012 3:53 pm | |
| - renato_pt wrote:
- good guys, I have a question what is the best map for my bike ...
Setup: AIS Removed Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Flapper Removed K & N Filter Air box door Out Stock Exhaust
My transmission is 13/42
I currently have this map: 22-016-002 Stock exhaust, Stock air filter, airbox lid removed
Greetings This past Saturday one of the guys I went dual sporting with had a pretty "tricked out WRR. Power Commander, somebody's loud pipe, all of the usual airbox and other stuff modified or removed. He'd bought the bike used and complained about no low end and, before he went back to stock he wanted to compare (my bike is box stock). He's about 40 pounds lighter than me and a decade younger. We drag raced on gravel, in sand, on pavement and either broke even or I rolled away from him. On asphalt, it was no contest; I had a 1/8 mile lead after a mile. On gravel, we were even. In the sand, he had a slight edge with knobbies vs Shinko 705's. I keep seeing meaningly "improvements" posted on dyno testing. We were both convinced that sacrifices are being made pointlessly. | |
| | | motokid Moderator
| Subject: Re: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Tue May 15, 2012 3:58 pm | |
| - twday wrote:
This past Saturday one of the guys I went dual sporting with had a pretty "tricked out WRR. Power Commander, somebody's loud pipe, all of the usual airbox and other stuff modified or removed. He'd bought the bike used and complained about no low end and, before he went back to stock he wanted to compare (my bike is box stock). He's about 40 pounds lighter than me and a decade younger. We drag raced on gravel, in sand, on pavement and either broke even or I rolled away from him. On asphalt, it was no contest; I had a 1/8 mile lead after a mile. On gravel, we were even. In the sand, he had a slight edge with knobbies vs Shinko 705's. I keep seeing meaningly "improvements" posted on dyno testing. We were both convinced that sacrifices are being made pointlessly. Then there is something way wrong with his bike. _________________ 2008 WR250X Gearing: 13t - 48t Power Commander 5 / PC-V Airbox Door Removed - Flapper glued - AIS removed FmF Q4 Bridgestone Battlax BT-003rs
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| | | motokid Moderator
| Subject: Re: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Tue May 15, 2012 4:01 pm | |
| - BuilderBob wrote:
Might be because of the cost of entry into the Autotune club. Most maps available on the Dynojet site have been submitted by end-users. There just aren't that many out there, is my guess. I can see why guys/gals with autotune would not post maps, but those without should be making and posting the maps they make. Does the autotune save settings? If you have mods x,y,z, and pipe b and the weather is 70 degrees out and you live near sea level can't you save an autotune setting and post that for others to use who don't have autotune? Can't you guys with PCV's and Autotunes help each other out? Or does the autotune not allow such things to be saved? _________________ 2008 WR250X Gearing: 13t - 48t Power Commander 5 / PC-V Airbox Door Removed - Flapper glued - AIS removed FmF Q4 Bridgestone Battlax BT-003rs
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| | | BuilderBob
| Subject: Re: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Tue May 15, 2012 4:31 pm | |
| - motokid wrote:
- Does the autotune save settings?
If you have mods x,y,z, and pipe b and the weather is 70 degrees out and you live near sea level can't you save an autotune setting and post that for others to use who don't have autotune? Yes, and yes. Kind of. There is a switch that you can buy that will allow you to switch between two maps on the fly. Alternatively, you can have a whole library of maps saved on your computer that you can upload to the PC5. Different maps for different conditions, mods, etc. | |
| | | motokid Moderator
| Subject: Re: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Tue May 15, 2012 4:48 pm | |
| - BuilderBob wrote:
- motokid wrote:
- Does the autotune save settings?
If you have mods x,y,z, and pipe b and the weather is 70 degrees out and you live near sea level can't you save an autotune setting and post that for others to use who don't have autotune? Yes, and yes. Kind of.
There is a switch that you can buy that will allow you to switch between two maps on the fly.
Alternatively, you can have a whole library of maps saved on your computer that you can upload to the PC5. Different maps for different conditions, mods, etc. Yes - but can you upload maps to this website that you create through your autotune? _________________ 2008 WR250X Gearing: 13t - 48t Power Commander 5 / PC-V Airbox Door Removed - Flapper glued - AIS removed FmF Q4 Bridgestone Battlax BT-003rs
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| | | BuilderBob
| Subject: Re: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Tue May 15, 2012 5:20 pm | |
| - motokid wrote:
- BuilderBob wrote:
- motokid wrote:
- Does the autotune save settings?
If you have mods x,y,z, and pipe b and the weather is 70 degrees out and you live near sea level can't you save an autotune setting and post that for others to use who don't have autotune? Yes, and yes. Kind of.
There is a switch that you can buy that will allow you to switch between two maps on the fly.
Alternatively, you can have a whole library of maps saved on your computer that you can upload to the PC5. Different maps for different conditions, mods, etc. Yes - but can you upload maps to this website that you create through your autotune?
I have no idea, but that would be groovy. Maybe a section for maps. Mods chime in. | |
| | | motokid Moderator
| Subject: Re: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Tue May 15, 2012 9:25 pm | |
| - BuilderBob wrote:
- motokid wrote:
- BuilderBob wrote:
- motokid wrote:
- Does the autotune save settings?
If you have mods x,y,z, and pipe b and the weather is 70 degrees out and you live near sea level can't you save an autotune setting and post that for others to use who don't have autotune? Yes, and yes. Kind of.
There is a switch that you can buy that will allow you to switch between two maps on the fly.
Alternatively, you can have a whole library of maps saved on your computer that you can upload to the PC5. Different maps for different conditions, mods, etc. Yes - but can you upload maps to this website that you create through your autotune?
I have no idea, but that would be groovy. Maybe a section for maps. Mods chime in. If you can upload maps, at the very least a sticky for PCV maps could be made easily. _________________ 2008 WR250X Gearing: 13t - 48t Power Commander 5 / PC-V Airbox Door Removed - Flapper glued - AIS removed FmF Q4 Bridgestone Battlax BT-003rs
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| | | BuilderBob
| Subject: Re: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Tue May 15, 2012 9:51 pm | |
| - motokid wrote:
- BuilderBob wrote:
- motokid wrote:
- BuilderBob wrote:
- motokid wrote:
- Does the autotune save settings?
If you have mods x,y,z, and pipe b and the weather is 70 degrees out and you live near sea level can't you save an autotune setting and post that for others to use who don't have autotune? Yes, and yes. Kind of.
There is a switch that you can buy that will allow you to switch between two maps on the fly.
Alternatively, you can have a whole library of maps saved on your computer that you can upload to the PC5. Different maps for different conditions, mods, etc. Yes - but can you upload maps to this website that you create through your autotune?
I have no idea, but that would be groovy. Maybe a section for maps. Mods chime in. If you can upload maps, at the very least a sticky for PCV maps could be made easily.
Yeah, they can be uploaded. Just PC data files. | |
| | | motokid Moderator
| Subject: Re: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Wed May 16, 2012 6:13 am | |
| I think you PCV users owe it to yourselves to start a thread where maps can be uploaded, downloaded, and discussed. Especially those people who take an existing map and modify it to some extent and find it beneficial. They need to share. It would be a valuable resource to have here. _________________ 2008 WR250X Gearing: 13t - 48t Power Commander 5 / PC-V Airbox Door Removed - Flapper glued - AIS removed FmF Q4 Bridgestone Battlax BT-003rs
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| | | anoldsman
| Subject: Re: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Wed May 16, 2012 1:55 pm | |
| - motokid wrote:
- I think you PCV users owe it to yourselves to start a thread where maps can be uploaded, downloaded, and discussed.
Especially those people who take an existing map and modify it to some extent and find it beneficial. They need to share.
It would be a valuable resource to have here.
I'll post mine as soon as I get the latest map finalized. | |
| | | Rapid Dog
| Subject: Re: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Wed May 16, 2012 3:06 pm | |
| How/where do you go about downloading the map for a PCIII? Do you need a laptop next to the bike?
I see the demO: http://www.powercommander.com/downloads/Support-Released/PCIIIUSB/Tutorials/Send_map.swf
But I don't see a WR specific map... software? firmware? | |
| | | anoldsman
| Subject: Re: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Fri May 18, 2012 1:51 pm | |
| - Rapid Dog wrote:
- How/where do you go about downloading the map for a PCIII? Do you need a laptop next to the bike?
I see the demO: http://www.powercommander.com/downloads/Support-Released/PCIIIUSB/Tutorials/Send_map.swf
But I don't see a WR specific map... software? firmware? It took awhile to find it but here you are. http://www.powercommander.com/powercommander/powercommander_maps_installs_product_buy_options.aspx?mdlyrid=432-411&make=28&model=96&make-n=Yamaha&model-n=WR250X/R&year=2008&mk=28&mdl=96&yr=2008 | |
| | | anoldsman
| Subject: Re: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Fri May 18, 2012 1:52 pm | |
| - Rapid Dog wrote:
- How/where do you go about downloading the map for a PCIII? Do you need a laptop next to the bike?
I see the demO: http://www.powercommander.com/downloads/Support-Released/PCIIIUSB/Tutorials/Send_map.swf
But I don't see a WR specific map... software? firmware? And....Yes, you need a laptop hooked up to the PCIII to load the maps. | |
| | | DesertRatliff
| Subject: Re: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Sun May 20, 2012 9:53 am | |
| I'd love to have someone's Grave's exhaust, flapper/AIS delete, and Twin Air/Uni filter map. Right now I've got one for the Grave's, but that one just has the stock air box/filter.
You can mail me at: n.ratliff@yahoo.com
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| | | Big-O
| Subject: Re: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:51 pm | |
| I'm surprised that no one has chimed in on this subject yet, its been better than a year! I just purchased a new/used 2013 wrr with the PC5 installed, FMF pipes etc. That was just 5 days ago and I'm already starting to mess with the maps that are available with the PC5, which I have to say are very few. I would really like to work with one or more guys out there and get this beast dialed in. Maybe I can purchase the auto-tune unit or get this thing dyno'd and help other PC5 guys out. I've been running maps 6 and 9 on the bike and I find map 9 works really well. Anyone else running this map? | |
| | | motokid Moderator
| Subject: Re: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:00 am | |
| http://www.powercommander.com/powercommander/Contact/powercommander_sales_support.aspx <-- clicky Go to above link and send a request to get more maps loaded. Takes about 30 seconds and maybe if enough people do it we can get a few more. Maybe they just don't think there's enough wr250 owners out there with PC-V's to update anything? _________________ 2008 WR250X Gearing: 13t - 48t Power Commander 5 / PC-V Airbox Door Removed - Flapper glued - AIS removed FmF Q4 Bridgestone Battlax BT-003rs
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| | | Big-O
| Subject: Re: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:34 am | |
| Maybe I am wrong but it seems that many more people here use the FMF programmer than the PC5. Does the FMF programmer allow for several maps to be switched on the fly to suit different riding conditions? Example, going from road to dirt and vica versa. Would you guys who have the FMF programmer consider moving over to the PC5 or are you sold on the features of the programmer that you have? | |
| | | motokid Moderator
| Subject: Re: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:53 am | |
| - Big-O wrote:
- Maybe I am wrong but it seems that many more people here use the FMF programmer than the PC5. Does the FMF programmer allow for several maps to be switched on the fly to suit different riding conditions? Example, going from road to dirt and vica versa. Would you guys who have the FMF programmer consider moving over to the PC5 or are you sold on the features of the programmer that you have?
There is NOTHING at all similar between an FmF and the PC-V. Radically different in every way. Apples to chairs comparison. _________________ 2008 WR250X Gearing: 13t - 48t Power Commander 5 / PC-V Airbox Door Removed - Flapper glued - AIS removed FmF Q4 Bridgestone Battlax BT-003rs
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| | | stevo66
| Subject: Re: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:45 pm | |
| - motokid wrote:
- http://www.powercommander.com/powercommander/Contact/powercommander_sales_support.aspx <-- clicky
Go to above link and send a request to get more maps loaded.
Takes about 30 seconds and maybe if enough people do it we can get a few more.
Maybe they just don't think there's enough wr250 owners out there with PC-V's to update anything?
Hi moto, I clicked the link and got this email back We are located in North Las Vegas, NV. If you would like to bring your bike to us (or make arrangements for someone else to) bring the bike with a particular set of modifications installed that we do not already have listed in our map database, we will be happy to tune the bike on the dyno and post the map publically for the world to enjoy. I do not have any way to estimate if/when a particular bike with a particular set of modifications is going to be donated to us for tuning. Also, if you want to send us any pipes or parts that we can use to make maps with, we might be able to find the bike model locally that we can use to put the parts on and make a map with. Let me know if you have any further questions. Regards, | |
| | | motokid Moderator
| Subject: Re: Dynojet Powercommander V (Fuel Only) Question... Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:17 pm | |
| I got same thing: - Quote :
- We are located in North Las Vegas, NV.
If you would like to bring your bike to us (or make arrangements for someone else to) bring the bike with a particular set of modifications installed that we do not already have listed in our map database, we will be happy to tune the bike on the dyno and post the map publically for the world to enjoy. I do not have any way to estimate if/when a particular bike with a particular set of modifications is going to be donated to us for tuning. Also, if you want to send us any pipes or parts that we can use to make maps with, we might be able to find the bike model locally that we can use to put the parts on and make a map with. Let me know if you have any further questions. Regards, Chris Kelly Dynojet Research Inc. 2191 Mendenhall Dr. Suite 105 North Las Vegas, NV 89081 1-800-992-4993 Trouble is - Delaware ain't reasonably close to Las Vegas. It almost sounds like they'd tune your bike for free doesn't it? _________________ 2008 WR250X Gearing: 13t - 48t Power Commander 5 / PC-V Airbox Door Removed - Flapper glued - AIS removed FmF Q4 Bridgestone Battlax BT-003rs
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