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+8GusinCA Chief_Lee_Visceral stumo YZEtc greer X-Racer SheWolf jacque372 12 posters | Author | Message |
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jacque372
| Subject: should i pull the trigger on another r2 Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:49 am | |
| it's been a couple of months since i was hit by a mail truck and my r2 was total loss. i'm slowly getting better and want to start looking to replace it. i love the r2 i have had alot of bikes and i have never had as much fun as i have had on this bike. this bike was my daily driver i don't drive a car. the thing i love about this bike is the reliability and that it requires almost no maintenance. i have even raced this bike in a 1hr gp race and finished mid pack. my other option is a husqvarna te or a ktm exc but is the increase in performance worth the increase in maintenance. the downfall of getting the husky is there is no aftermarket for them. most of my riding is tight steep northeastern trails and when you put good rubber on the r2 it can go anywhere. i'm looking at the other bike because i'm looking to do more harescrambles this year. tell me what you guys think | |
| | | SheWolf Alpha Rider
| Subject: Re: should i pull the trigger on another r2 Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:36 am | |
| If you liked the R² that much, why not go for another one? You could still enter it in hare scrambles and have a lot of fun with it, and still enjoy the bike like you did before your accident. I know if I lost mine I wouldn't think twice about getting another one. _________________ A wolf's voice echoed down the mountain 'Share the bounty of the hunt with your brothers and sisters, and forever be strong and free.' | |
| | | X-Racer
| Subject: Re: should i pull the trigger on another r2 Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:08 am | |
| I dunno... If you are looking for another daily driver, part-time, go doink around and race for fun fine; The WR would do that (obviously you know better than most here do).
If you're looking to race, I'd buy a race bike.
Maintenance on a race bike is already expected.
I don't know that I'd give-up race performance for a dual-sport. | |
| | | greer
| Subject: Re: should i pull the trigger on another r2 Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:30 am | |
| Winter is the time to pick up a clean, used bike for cheap; search craigslist and see what's out there. You know what you need more than anybody else. Glad you're getting better and can think about bikes again.
Sarah | |
| | | YZEtc
| Subject: Re: should i pull the trigger on another r2 Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:03 am | |
| You need to look in the mirror and be honest with the guy in there.
If you really want another dual-purpose bike with great street ability and decent off-road ability and requires just the usual routine maintenance, get another WR-250R.
An off-road race bike will be much, much better off-road due to much lighter weight, more snap and power, and MUCH better suspension (which is a very big deal that's easily dismissed or never even considered), but, as you probably already know, it won't be as good on the street (much lower gearing limits top speed and even cruising speed), the higher-tuned engines will need sooner overhauls, and running around on an off-road race bike with road-worn knobbies is a bummer. Plus, will your state register it for the street without making you chew on your fingernails?
On the flip side, an off-road bike is much, much better at actual off-road riding than the WR-250R, which I know from personal experience. Although I say they'll need sooner overhauls, it's not like you'll be tearing the cylinder and head off for a rebuild every other weekend, either. I've riddin my 2009 WR-250F, which rips, practically every weekend for a solid year, putting on 1,200 off-road miles, and haven't even done a valve clearance check, let alone adjustment. It does require much more frequent oil changes, though, frequent air filter services since it lives for off-road use, and even though 1,200 miles can seem like a lot off-road where hitting 35mph over some gnarly terrain can make you feel like you're doing 120mph, 1,200 miles on the street is not considered a whole lot.
My opinion boils down to this:
What's more important to you? A well-mannered bike that is great on the street and is decent off-road, or top-shelf off-road performance at the expense of street performance? | |
| | | stumo
| Subject: Re: should i pull the trigger on another r2 Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:11 am | |
| - Quote :
- What's more important to you?
A well-mannered bike that is great on the street and is decent off-road, or top-shelf off-road performance at the expense of street performance? That's the dilemma i'm looking at. | |
| | | jacque372
| Subject: Re: should i pull the trigger on another r2 Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:42 am | |
| i have several bikes including a x i sold my race bikes this year to do more offroad dualsport riding. my commute is less than 3miles round trip and the state bayview ohv trails are minutes from my home. i liked racing the wr because it was fun to show up at the track line up on the line with a bike with a plate mirrors and a horn and hold your own. i have even done these 1hr gp races on a stock klx110 and done very well nothing hurt more than struggling in the hard enduro sections of rocks and tires on a full race bike and a old guy on a little kids bike blows by you. i ride for fun not a trophy. i will go look at the husky's this weekend but if i find it's not worth getting this bike just to get a plate over a race bike i will just get another wr and pick up a race bike in the spring. | |
| | | Chief_Lee_Visceral
| Subject: Re: should i pull the trigger on another r2 Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:01 pm | |
| Followed your story and glad you are recovering. The 2011 Husaberg FE570 S is EFI and also fifty state street legal this year. So don't go look at them like I did You'll want one. WP cartridge forks are state of the art and everything is nicely turned out but of course twice the $$$ too. I tell myself I will save on mods but that is probably a trick I am playing on myself but it is true my WRR with the cost of the mods is about the price of the Berg. I think I am going to keep the WRR for riding to work etc and look to get a Berg for the weekend rides. | |
| | | GusinCA
| Subject: Re: should i pull the trigger on another r2 Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:47 pm | |
| In California there is no other option.
60-75% of the dirt roads and Jeep trails here are street-legal only, and the DMV is starting to send out notices to people who took off-road machines and put license plates on them, demanding the plates back (their logic follows that if it was designed from the factory to not be street legal, then it isn't).
So, the WR is the only logical choice here... | |
| | | wilburj
| Subject: Re: should i pull the trigger on another r2 Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:12 pm | |
| Before you "pull the trigger" be sure it is a killing shot. Never pull your weapon unless you intend to kill. wilburj | |
| | | jacque372
| Subject: Re: should i pull the trigger on another r2 Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:58 pm | |
| after alot of soul searching i think i will just get another r2 i use mine every day put alot of miles on it and reliability is my number one concern. if i want to race i will just pick up another race bike. yamaha is going to start wondering what i'm doing with these wr's. my buddies give me slack about getting the same bike again but these bikes can't be beat. | |
| | | skierd
| Subject: Re: should i pull the trigger on another r2 Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:11 am | |
| I might be biased, but i say get another one. :) | |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: should i pull the trigger on another r2 Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:02 am | |
| Jacque,
I'm glad you are recovering from the crash.
I agree totally with what you said above. Especially agree with: "i love the r2 i have had alot of bikes and i have never had as much fun as i have had on this bike". +1 for sure and a very common comment about these bikes... not so common with most bikes!
I've owned just over a dozen bikes and have not found any to be nearly as fun as the WRR/X. I hear a lot of people saying the same thing. I don't think that feeling that way is the typical reaction to most bikes. It's fairly unique and isolated to very few models IMHO.
My super fast bike was no part of fun. But that was a bullet bike and isn't really relevant. Back to topic.
I see other well known inmates saying this of their faster offroad bikes. A common theme there: "Much faster offroad, but man it's a lot of work herding that thing. I'm totally worn out in just a couple of hours. It's just not as fun." I'm rephrasing there as best I can from memory, but that was a pretty good rider comparing his WR450F to his WRR. Massively more power and suspension, yet the 450 went away and the WRR stayed.
Again, probably the only way to place well or win a race is... obviously, a race bike.
I admit to being totally biased. But then, I just went from a pig to my dualsported WRX... and a race bike ain't a pig by any stretch!
The only time I was on a new/true mx bike was in 1977, so that's antique knowledge and not worth much. Though nada by today's standards, that "race ready" YZ250 2 stroke sure seemed fast at the time. But definitely not fun. More like: "Adrenaline rush? How'd ya' like to die today? Can do!" Some of that deathwish feeling was probably that power was way ahead of suspension back then, IMHO.
I've rambled enough. I think you're smart to do some soul searching about it. Bikes have become very expensive - it's a major expenditure (especially with all the mods) and shouldn't be taken lightly.
I agree with Sarah about buying used. I picked up my pristine WRX with 2,500 miles, nearly stock (only handguards had been added) for $2900 and that was in July! (still riding season)
If ya' go with a WRR, suggest using searchtempest or something like that and find one cheap. Winter deal? Great idea!
LS
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| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: should i pull the trigger on another r2 Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:05 am | |
| "Before you "pull the trigger" be sure it is a killing shot. Never pull your weapon unless you intend to kill."Wrong forum, and that comment probably doesn't belong here... but since it IS here... I've responded to set the record straight over here in "Off Topic": https://wr250rforum.forumotion.com/off-topic-f6/deadly-force-intent-t3472.htm#34009I recognize it was probably meant as a joke regarding the OP's phrase "pull the trigger" and yes I have a sense of humor, but I'd rather keep current laws and politics as clear as possible versus muddying the water with what some may wish were reality. Especially since this is a highly politically charged topic and is likely about to boil over here in the good ole USA. In a nutshell: "This ain't Dodge City and you ain't Bill Hickok" (name that movie...) And this "ain't" 1837 to 1876"... well, I added that part. ;-) BF |
| | | Jäger Admin
| Subject: Re: should i pull the trigger on another r2 Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:56 pm | |
| - BigFeet wrote:
- "Before you "pull the trigger" be sure it is a killing shot. Never pull your weapon unless you intend to kill."
Wrong forum, and that comment probably doesn't belong here... but since it IS here... I've responded to set the record straight over here in "Off Topic":
https://wr250rforum.forumotion.com/off-topic-f6/deadly-force-intent-t3472.htm#34009
I recognize it was probably meant as a joke regarding the OP's phrase "pull the trigger" and yes I have a sense of humor, but I'd rather keep current laws and politics as clear as possible versus muddying the water with what some may wish were reality. Especially since this is a highly politically charged topic and is likely about to boil over here in the good ole USA. I don't know the poster's intent, but the expression is perfectly legitimate for those who are hunters and not carrying for self defense. Of course, most hunter's don't "pull their weapon" either, and as a cop I drew my sidearm many times without the immediate intention to shoot anybody. In fact, drawing the firearm was first, to give me a tactical advantage in reaction time if things went south, and perhaps equally as important, to send a very strong message to the bad guy that we weren't messing around and now would be a good time to not be threatening and do as they were told. In most cases, a highly effective deterrent to any violence once the justification for drawing a sidearm existed. And the movie was "Quigley Down Under". Further discussion related to firearms to be found in Off Topic... | |
| | | ekahwaty
| Subject: Re: should i pull the trigger on another r2 Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:46 pm | |
| Back to the topic, I would give more of a philosophical answer. Based on the fact that you had the mishap on your R2 you might want to try something different. I think the greatest complement would be spending some time with another bike and then deciding to go back to another WR doubts dismissed. Just a thought, heal up and have fun soon either way! | |
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