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SheWolf
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SheWolf



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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 EmptyMon May 31, 2010 11:53 pm

You can try that setting, and like I said if it doesn't respond right you can always try a lower setting like what I'm running. The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 61865

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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 EmptyMon May 31, 2010 11:57 pm

i think i'll try the first 4 values you suggested and run 4.5 for the last 2.

Now i just need to figure out how to set the properties. Which is also one of the reasons as to why it's still at stock setting. lol. I tell you, i can ride the shit out anything on 2 wheels but when it comes to repairing or working on stuff, i'm like the grandpa who can't set the clock on the VCR. Ok, i'm not that useless. I'll play with the settings later on.


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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 EmptyTue Jun 01, 2010 5:21 am

SheWolf wrote:
#4 = green/blue. Used for the turbo'd bikes/sleds, but on our un-turboe'd bikes, it's the
point where the RPM range, when in cruise mode, fuel is turned on.

#5 = yellow/blue. The adjustment of delay, in acceleration mode, when the
fuel turns on.

#6 = red/blue. The adjustment of delay, in WOT mode, when the
fuel turns on.

We do use #4. When explained to me, the last 3 numbers can affect bikes at different altitudes. I merely offered up a base set of numbers to start with, and being he's higher up in the ozone layer than I am, one can try going with the higher numbers. In the end, it's a starting point; if he finds it isn't responding the way he likes it, one can go with a lower setting. He could also try 4.5 on the last 2, it's merely a starting point. The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 61865


Right, but isn't it the higher the number the LATER the fuel comes on?
If you the fuel to come on faster you go with a lower number right?

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Power Commander 5 / PC-V
Airbox Door Removed - Flapper glued - AIS removed
FmF Q4
Bridgestone Battlax BT-003rs
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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 EmptyTue Jun 01, 2010 3:14 pm

Derek is the man!! I just got off the phone with him.

Green-Blue Mode 4 : set lower for performance - higher for mpg

He's going to get back to me later today with the settings he originally came up with when he designed the programmer for the wr.

I'd consider that a perfect base point to start from. I can't remember what the stock unit came set at so getting these straight from Derek is perfect.

I'll post those numbers when I get them The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 525406

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2008 WR250X
Gearing: 13t - 48t
Power Commander 5 / PC-V
Airbox Door Removed - Flapper glued - AIS removed
FmF Q4
Bridgestone Battlax BT-003rs
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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 EmptyTue Jun 01, 2010 3:30 pm

Both numbers I ran were the base settings he went with back when I first got the unit off him. The first set was on the stock bike, the second was a modded piped bike. The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 61865

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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 EmptyTue Jun 01, 2010 3:36 pm

You talking about from your original post?

If not, could you please quote your own post with those numbers? The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 525406

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2008 WR250X
Gearing: 13t - 48t
Power Commander 5 / PC-V
Airbox Door Removed - Flapper glued - AIS removed
FmF Q4
Bridgestone Battlax BT-003rs
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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 EmptyTue Jun 01, 2010 9:35 pm

andy mac wrote:
I bought a gen 3.2 through the flea market and was also puzzled by the set-up -which is different to the gen 3 set-up video on the Attitude website.

I was trying to use Shewolf's setup 3.5, 4.5, 1.5, 8, 4, 4.5 but I was having trouble distinguishing between green & yellow flashes & each time I seemed to get different sequences......

deerHater wrote:
As described by The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 204616 Shewolf, with ignition on but engine not running, get alternating #1 & #8 lights.
Then fire up bike, immediatly goes to all scrolling greens as described on AI demo.
Scrolled through the 6 modes, exactly as described in the AI demo.

Happy now The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 93746 , I'll go for a shakedown ride later today.

Sorry andy mac, because my GEN 3.2 worked exactly as the AI demo, perhaps yours is damaged?

I tried again to set-up my GEN 3.2 and was successful this time The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 379944
Previously when using the mode button I must have been skipping some modes which was why I was getting so confused why the lights weren't doing the right thing.
I'll test it this weekend - there has been lots of rain here.
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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 EmptyTue Jun 01, 2010 10:30 pm

well as of now it's set to 3 - 5 - .5 - 8 - 4 - 4.5. took it around the block and it definitely felt a lot more a live. it felt like my mid-range power increased by a lot and the low end power come on a lil quicker.


from what i've gathered from TT and here is that the last 3 numbers if set lower will give you more performance whereas the opposite will give you better mpg but rob you of performance.

I'm still confused as to the value of the 3rd mode. (i've seen people running all different values in this mode).

if i'm wrong or way off i apologize. i'm just trying to figure this thing out and find the happy medium with the correct mapping of smoother and increased throttle response, perfomance, and good mpg.
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SheWolf



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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 EmptyTue Jun 01, 2010 11:40 pm

I have the last ones set about the middle and it seems more than happy with those parameters. MotoKid, you're correct; I was referring to my OP waaaay back in the beginning. Still running the same setup at #2. The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 61865

Matty, let us know how that thing rips when you can take it for a good ride. Sometimes you don't feel the full thing unless you're working it thru its paces. The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 810411

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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 EmptyWed Jun 02, 2010 12:14 am

SheWolf wrote:

Matty, let us know how that thing rips when you can take it for a good ride. Sometimes you don't feel the full thing unless you're working it thru its paces. The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 810411

I'll be camping and riding in my backyard this weekend.
www.rampartrange.org


I'll let ya know how the weekend goes.
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PostSubject: New guy here.   The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 EmptyWed Jun 02, 2010 12:56 am

I've got a bone stock wrr I put a FMF controller on. The only settings I messed with is lowered (1 to 1.5) and (2 to 2.0). I left everything else as it came. This modest change did wonders to the the bike. It is no longer impossible to hold a steady throttle at low speed, such as riding on a military base.
This is the only mod I plan on doing, but it is enough.
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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 EmptyWed Jun 02, 2010 1:15 am

The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 61865 Besides tires, I'd say it's the best mod to put on the bike.

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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 EmptyWed Jun 02, 2010 1:50 am

yeah, but I'll probably stick with the trail wings. This bike is for commuting. I wanted an X but was offered a new leftover 2008 wrr for a good deal. The most I will do off road will be dirt roads and some jeep trails. I've got a collection of mountain bikes for the nasty stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 EmptyWed Jun 02, 2010 10:44 pm

Does anyone know the default FMF settings? I would like to start messing around with the settings, but would like to fall back on the defaults if the bike isn't running to my liking.
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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 EmptyWed Jun 02, 2010 11:19 pm

AFAIK, it's .5 all across the spectrum...

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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 EmptyThu Jun 03, 2010 12:20 am

so i took her out for a lil ride today... everything feels great except for some hesitation from a stand still in first gear. feel like the throttle response is lagging just a lil off the line. running 3, 5.5, .5, 8, 4, 4.5. I'm wondering what mode i should increase to fix the hesitation? I mean i can keep it how it is, i'm just worried about getting stuck and stopped on a steep hill.
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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 EmptyThu Jun 03, 2010 5:23 am

motokid wrote:
Derek is the man!! I just got off the phone with him.

Green-Blue Mode 4 : set lower for performance - higher for mpg


Try changing your "8" to a "1".

Might help.

_________________
2008 WR250X
Gearing: 13t - 48t
Power Commander 5 / PC-V
Airbox Door Removed - Flapper glued - AIS removed
FmF Q4
Bridgestone Battlax BT-003rs
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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 EmptyThu Jun 03, 2010 10:31 am

motokid wrote:
motokid wrote:
Derek is the man!! I just got off the phone with him.

Green-Blue Mode 4 : set lower for performance - higher for mpg


Try changing your "8" to a "1".

Might help.

that seems about right.

Quote :
4 = Green/Blue = Point at which the RPM Range When in Cruise Mode is turned on. (.5 = 1,000rpm) (8 = 2,800rpm)


now what about changing Mode 5?

Quote :
5 = Yellow/Blue = Adjustment of delay in acceleration mode fuel turns on. (.5 = sooner, 8 = later)

Mode 5 on mine is at 4. Wondering if i should try like 2.5 or something. And in doing so, what will it effect?

I hate being so confused!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 EmptyThu Jun 03, 2010 11:39 am

The neat thing about this is that you can always fiddle with the settings to see what it does, without hurting the bike. Just remember where your last settings were in the event it doesn't do what you want. The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 61865

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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 EmptyThu Jun 03, 2010 11:54 am

Make one change at a time though. If you change more than one setting you'll not know which change effected what.

Don't take this the wrong way, but Derek told me about the Green-Blue mode. What the web site states is confusing to me.

I'm going with Derek's words. Lower number on Mode 4 = higher performance.

Derek also told me the web site will be updated at some point soon with much better instructions, and more defined setting suggestions.

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2008 WR250X
Gearing: 13t - 48t
Power Commander 5 / PC-V
Airbox Door Removed - Flapper glued - AIS removed
FmF Q4
Bridgestone Battlax BT-003rs
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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 EmptyFri Jun 04, 2010 5:58 pm

I found out the following from FMF incase anyone is interested:
Setting the modes 1, 2, and 3 to 0.5 will disable the FMF programmer and will use the stock fuel curve.

Default FMF settings are 3, 4, 1, 8, 4, 4.5
I confirmed that these were the defaults set on my programmer.
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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 EmptySun Jun 06, 2010 9:38 am

Since adding my programmer bike is much harder to start (takes 3 or 4 tries with a warm engine) . Has anyone else experienced this and maybe be able to add some insight?

Mods :
flapper glued
airbox door removed (problem still occured with it on)
fmf programmer
stock pipe
AIS still aboard

running she wolf's suggested 1.5, 2.5, 1.0, 8.0, 4.0, 4.5
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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 EmptySun Jun 06, 2010 12:15 pm

I haven't had that trouble myself, not sure maybe someone else on here has...you could try bumping up the first three numbers to 3, but do it one at a time so you can see if it changes anything. Start with the first one and try it at 2, then move it up in increments until you hit 3. Hopefully someone who's had the same problem will chime in.

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PostSubject: Re: The Official FI Mapping Area   The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 EmptySun Jun 06, 2010 12:31 pm

Try cracking the throttle a little bit while cranking the engine. :)
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*chuckles* "Oh crap...flooded!!" The Official FI Mapping Area - Page 5 9356

I've never had to touch the throttle ever when I hit the starter, it fires right up. Have you checked your plug?

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